So what IS a PROPER Shoegaze Guitar???

mixtape · Post by **mixtape** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:34 am

Mages wrote:I first heard of them from a facebook ad that said, "like my bloody valentine? check out the joy formidable!" which is just baffling. you're right, they're not really that bad, they're doing their thing and it's fine enough. but they've made the most notable thing about themselves that they think they sound like MBV when they don't. it just makes you think that it's either some sort of calculated attempt to build blog buzz or they've missed the mark entirely on what they're trying to sound like.

I actually kind of like their sound. But I don't get the MBV comparison. At all. The friend who recommended them to me said, despite the fact that he ought to know better, that they sounded like Sonic Youth. Also baffling.

singlepup · Post by **singlepup** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:43 am

Couple of teles here... looks like Neil Halstead's is standard and Rachel Goswell's has humbuckers... but hard to tell.

Great, great song.

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vierphoria · Post by **vierphoria** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:30 am

singlepickup24 wrote:Couple of teles here... looks like Neil Halstead's is standard and Rachel Goswell's has humbuckers... but hard to tell.

Great, great song.

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From what I've gathered, Halstead used Teles quite a lot when performing with Slowdive. So even if the T-model isn't that prominent in everything shoegaze, at least one of the "bigger" names that used it.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:30 pm

fender custom shop bigsby-master

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not custom shop. i made all that up. when i screen capped it, the thing is stickerless

better views in this

2 toggleys. 2 pickups, 2 knobbys, 1 bigsby

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SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:43 pm

I forget that band is well known outside of KC.

when I was in High school, it was the only cool indie kids that listened to Appleseed Cast. Their music has grown on me but I still associate their music with douchebags.

vierphoria · Post by **vierphoria** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:55 pm

SKC Willie wrote:I forget that band is well known outside of KC.

when I was in High school, it was the only cool indie kids that listened to Appleseed Cast. Their music has grown on me but I still associate their music with douchebags.

Oxymoron?

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:05 pm

popular as in me and like 10 other kids in buffalo have heard them?

i wouldn't call them well known at all. they never put out a "hit" what they did was put out 5 or 6 of the most amazing complete albums ever.

even thier b-sides/7" collection album is fucking great.

i used to play them on the radio every friday night on my radio show from 1999-2001. for those couple of years, before emo got pushed into the malls and ruined, they were the most respected band in my circle for song craft. the songs were never poppy, or had a hook, but you could sit there and listen to mare vatalis from start to end and never think about skipping a song.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:08 pm

whenever i wore an appleseed cast shirt to a show, i would always get compliments on it from guys in touring bands. like people i never met in my life would just come up to me and say THATS A GREAT FUCKING BAND. the normal people there to watch the show could give a fuck

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:58 pm

I mean the fact that you've even heard of them says something. I don't know any local bands from Buffalo. For that kind of music I would say they're doing pretty well.

vierphoria · Post by **vierphoria** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:33 pm

SKC Willie wrote:I mean the fact that you've even heard of them says something. I don't know any local bands from Buffalo. For that kind of music I would say they're doing pretty well.

I listened to them as early as 2003, and I'm from Nowhere, Sweden.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:38 pm

Yeah but every American indie band that has at least 3 fans stateside is fucking MASSIVE in Europe.

vierphoria · Post by **vierphoria** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:10 am

paul_ wrote:Yeah but every American indie band that has at least 3 fans stateside is fucking MASSIVE in Europe.

Have you ever been to Sweden?

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:20 am

vierphoria · Post by **vierphoria** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:53 am

paul_ wrote:Yes.

I discovered Appleseed Cast through a "friend" who had been in the US and who in turn were introduced to them (alongside The Promise Ring) by an American relative. He sent me some songs, but it was first in 2007 that I saw an album by them for sale on a Swedish website. So no, they weren't huge until the emo wave had hit Scandinavia (2006/7->).

How did you like Sweden? Any special places you visited?

singlepup · Post by **singlepup** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:00 am

I guy I used to jam with turned me on to Appleseed Cast about a year ago. So they're known in California, nor and so.

I thought they were more post rock than shoegaze? Genres are often stupid, but they certainly don't sound like MBV to me.

Their drummer is pretty sick.

vierphoria · Post by **vierphoria** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:14 am

singlepickup24 wrote:
I thought they were more post rock than shoegaze? Genres are often stupid, but they certainly don't sound like MBV to me.

singlepup · Post by **singlepup** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:46 am

whatever, they fucking rule.

mezzio13 · Post by **mezzio13** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:33 am

SKC Willie wrote:I don't know any local bands from Buffalo.

There is this band called the Goo Goo Dolls that have a bit of a following.....

SKC Willie · Post by **SKC Willie** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:39 am

mezzio13 wrote:
SKC Willie wrote:I don't know any local bands from Buffalo.
There is this band called the Goo Goo Dolls that have a bit of a following.....

haha. I was thinking more like . . . smaller bands. Puddle of Mudd is from KC. F YEAH!

drBenway · Post by **drBenway** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:31 am