wtf is with these straplocks

kim · Post by **kim** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:03 pm

so i have straplocks on my stang it's been ages but as far as i remember it was no big deal installing them, the screw is a bit longer and more thick, but the original strap button screw doesn't fit in the dunlop strap button so have to use theirs (the longer ones).

so, i had the same version for the kurdtz jag, and i can't fucking get that screw any further than halfway, i don't have an electric screwdriver, maybe i should borrow one, because somehow it's just not working like on my mustang or my precision bass... wt...

i guess it'll be a while without straplocks then so it can fall all over the place, i don't even have a roll of tape anymore because i've gotten so used to straplocks.

fuck you dunlop and fuck you fender, you are not compatible.

they fit on my p bass, stang, why the fuck not on this one ? instead of using an electric screwdriver and ruining it all i'll prolly go look for flathead screws that are a bit more thin and short so they fit in both the button and guitar. fucksake.

Post by **Hurb** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:52 pm

Might just be the Alder(yeah?)of the Jaguar is harder than the( basswood?) of the mustang? I've always just screwed them in but you may need to drill a pilot hole to get the longer screw in.

kim · Post by **kim** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:05 pm

you are probably right and i've thought the same, but the, i figured..the mia p bass..isn't basswood, it's also alder.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:05 pm

I'm assuming the original screw head isn't fitting inside the button belonging to the straplock ??

If that's the case the straplock wont operate properly as the screw head needs to fit down the inside of the strap button.

You have 2 options. File down the screw head sides (tedious) or find screws that will fit with smaller heads.
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Try match the length / girth of the original screw.... forcing a screw in can split the body. It's happened to me !!! So if it is bigger then drilling it out a little is advised.

Or if the new screw is too thin / shorter it could be susceptible to falling out mid use. You can glue a match stick / tooth pick to give it the bite it needs.

Hope this helps.

kim · Post by **kim** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:09 pm

well the original screw does fit into the dunlop strap BUTTON, but then because it isn't a flat head at the bottom it can't sink in so you can't put the lock into the strap button.

i have it like that now though, no locks on it but the dunlop strap buttons.

i guess best thing is to go to a shop and take the original guitar screws with me and find exactly the same thickness and length but with a flat head.
shouldn't be impossible.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:47 pm

OIC, so it wont fit due to height of the screw head, and they're all the way in ?

kim · Post by **kim** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:15 pm

see where the lock goes in, it needs the dunlop flathead screw because the fender round screw head gets stuck in the dunlop button so no room for the lock.

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:34 pm

Yeah this is why I just started putting Grolsch washers on all my guitars.

It's cheaper that way and it always works. Plus Johnny Marr does it, too.

kim · Post by **kim** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:35 pm

i live in belgium, we do not have grolsch. atleast not in the shithole i live in.

endsjustifymeans · Post by **endsjustifymeans** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:39 pm

brain fur wrote:Nothing says "I drank two beers" like Grolsch straplocks

crumpler · Post by **crumpler** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:49 am

kim wrote:i live in belgium, we do not have grolsch. atleast not in the shithole i live in.

are you allowed to brew your own beer in small batches in Belgium?
Any brewer's supply store will carry them, wicked cheap.

kim · Post by **kim** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:59 am

brewer's supply store, i don't know if there's any around, just breweries, no brewer supply, hmm..i prefer drinker supply stores.

anyway what i did is just used the dunlop metal washers and permanently attached the strap. fuck it.

h8mtv · Post by **h8mtv** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:16 am

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Washers-Grol ... 58922a8229

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grolsch-Type-Sp ... 2a19cf9a9c

singlepup · Post by **singlepup** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:35 am

grolsch washers is a really awesome idea. thanks for that, honey.

Doug · Post by **Doug** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:54 am

singlepickup24 wrote:grolsch washers is a really awesome idea. thanks for that, honey.

I heard about this cheap trick in a Nels Cline interview. Trust his judgement, so I use em too. Just fine.

mezzio13 · Post by **mezzio13** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:14 am

Fuck that. Use Schallers. Work good. Look good.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:21 am

mezzio13 wrote:Fuck that. Use Schallers. Work good. Look good.

best.

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:44 am

Sloan wrote:
mezzio13 wrote:Fuck that. Use Schallers. Work good. Look good.
best.

+1 Aye.

Can you return them Kim?

ultratwin · Post by **ultratwin** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:55 am

I've got probably 8 pairs of *Dunlops for my guitars, only the Cindicaster(gretsch pins, no need) and SG1000(Dave Grolschies) left as-is.

I had Schallers early on but got sick of the nut going loose on me, whereas *Dunlops click into place with needle-nose pliers and can be forgotten about. Granted, the screw size is odd, but the times I've had issues I was able to either drill a slight amount more room in there, or in the case of the gaping hole that was already in the '78 Jazz Bass, I put a toothpick splinter in and all squeaked into place just fine, no further issues to speak of.

If there wasn't enough space, I'd just stick a small flathead screwdriver into the hole and start digging in, just enough.

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kim · Post by **kim** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:30 am

well i put a toothpick in the hole i dug, and i put on the original strap button with original screw in and put the dunlop washer on, so now the strap is behind the strap button, screwed on, the screw will of course get more and more lose from use because a strap moves, but fuck it, can keep filling the hole with toothpicks. lol