So my LE Jaguar arrived. There are some issues with it that were not in the listing and I wanted your guys take on it.
1. The lower tone pot doesn't work.
2. The three switches need to be replaced. They are super loose.
3. There is a large dent on the bottom. DSC04040 by Hentai No Baka, on Flickr
4. It looks like the strap button ripped out of it (maybe how it got its dent) and it looks like it would need to be drilled and doweled. Right now it looks glued in. DSC04041 by Hentai No Baka, on Flickr
refund. That's terrible. It's misrepresentation. If you had known about the damage beforehand, then it's okay. But to sell the guitar without listing those, then send it back.
Besides, you have twenty guitars anyway. You don't need another one.
I messaged the seller. The crappy thing is I would have to pay return shipping. That is like $50 just for the fun of waiting for the guitar for over a week.... Frustrating.
HNB wrote:I messaged the seller. The crappy thing is I would have to pay return shipping. That is like $50 just for the fun of waiting for the guitar for over a week.... Frustrating.
Yeah, I don't get why the buyer is out return shipping when these conflicts come up with eBay; it should be the misrepresenting seller that has to cover it.
ekwatts wrote:That's American cinema, that is. Fucking sparkles.
yeah, I would tell him that if he fronts the $50 for shipping it back, you'll leave no feedback but if he won't do it, then you're going to leave as bad as feedback as possible.
SKC Willie wrote:yeah, I would tell him that if he fronts the $50 for shipping it back, you'll leave no feedback but if he won't do it, then you're going to leave as bad as feedback as possible.
really disappointing.
This whole transaction was a pain. I was hoping through it all that the guitar would be worth the fight. Then to have it arrive in that kind of shape just ticks me off.
He just offered me $100 to go towards repair but I just am not digging that. That is a huge blemish and that strap button looks really messed up.
HNB wrote:He confirmed his address so I can return it for a refund. I told him if the refund process goes well, I will give him positive feedback.
To protect yourself, I'd make sure to open a case through Ebay. This same sort of thing happened to my brother-in-law when he bought a collectable record from overseas, and after a long battle, the seller had to pay for return registered shipping for the fully insured item (plus import duties) which ended up sticking the seller with an ungodly huge bill (approx. $150). I'm sure if you did the same in this case, it would prevent this seller from misrepresenting an item this badly again.
Mske sure you open an 'item not as described' case with ebay, as the other guy said, before sending anything back. This will help in making. not sure you're not screwed for a second time. Also leave negative feedback so nobody else gets caught out by this guy.
I'd open a case with paypal and offer to take the guitar at a reduced rate, if the seller has any sense he'll knock a fair bit off of it. Do it all through Paypal otherwise you might end up sending the guitar back and never hear from him again.
This exact same thing happened to me before and because I put forward a proposed solution paypal came down on my side and gave the guy the choice between giving me a full refund and paying any cost for me to return his guitar or refunding part of the original price to make good the fact that the guitar was not as described. (people may remember my old 67 Jaguar from Wunjo guitars) Paypal ended up awarding me a load of cash back.
My friend got a Bernie Rico custom from a guy in Australia recently, it arrived in an awful state, the dude claimed it had been damaged in transit but I checked the guitar and you could see that the damage was old and had a half ass repair attempted at some point. I gave my friend the same advice I gave to you, put in a solution that suits or ask for a full refund if the seller won't comply. He chose to Just do a standard claim through Paypal. In the end Paypal decided the problem was with the courier and that the seller was in no way responsible. This totally shafted my mate because as you know it's up to whoever sent the item to pursue any claim for damage done in transit.
When dealing with paypal its super important to put in a reasonable resolution or they tend to deal with it in the easiest way for them which if you're lucky would be to get your money refunded and they'll leave you to eat the postage. If you provide lots of info and offer the seller a deal (even if it's heavily slanted in your favour chances are you'll be very happy.
johnnyseven wrote:Mske sure you open an 'item not as described' case with ebay, as the other guy said, before sending anything back. This will help in making. not sure you're not screwed for a second time. Also leave negative feedback so nobody else gets caught out by this guy.
Thanks for that. I opened a case and added the message to it that I was sent an ebay message from the seller that he would issue a refund and gave me his address to send the guitar back. Hopefully that has me covered.
wetbelly wrote:To protect yourself, I'd make sure to open a case through Ebay. This same sort of thing happened to my brother-in-law when he bought a collectable record from overseas, and after a long battle, the seller had to pay for return registered shipping for the fully insured item (plus import duties) which ended up sticking the seller with an ungodly huge bill (approx. $150). I'm sure if you did the same in this case, it would prevent this seller from misrepresenting an item this badly again.
I got that all set up. Thanks a lot for that advice. I haven't EVER had to return something on ebay before. I haven't ever had problems with sellers not showing stuff like this in the listing. If I had seen those two things, I would have easily passed on the sale.
johnnyseven wrote:Mske sure you open an 'item not as described' case with ebay, as the other guy said, before sending anything back. This will help in making. not sure you're not screwed for a second time. Also leave negative feedback so nobody else gets caught out by this guy.
Thanks for that. I opened a case and added the message to it that I was sent an ebay message from the seller that he would issue a refund and gave me his address to send the guitar back. Hopefully that has me covered.
wetbelly wrote:To protect yourself, I'd make sure to open a case through Ebay. This same sort of thing happened to my brother-in-law when he bought a collectable record from overseas, and after a long battle, the seller had to pay for return registered shipping for the fully insured item (plus import duties) which ended up sticking the seller with an ungodly huge bill (approx. $150). I'm sure if you did the same in this case, it would prevent this seller from misrepresenting an item this badly again.
I got that all set up. Thanks a lot for that advice. I haven't EVER had to return something on ebay before. I haven't ever had problems with sellers not showing stuff like this in the listing. If I had seen those two things, I would have easily passed on the sale.
Don't send it back until ebay has dealt with the case and come to a conclusion. Just in case the rule in his favour, then you'll be down a guitar and your cash.
you got a rare jaguar, there's only 499 others on earth.
it requires 15 dollars worth of parts and about 20 minutes worth of work
you got rare jaguar for less than 1grr.
to me, the first question I would ask myself is "how does it play?"
if it plays like shit continue on with dealing with this shitheel
He didn't just glue in the strap button, the new one was drilled next to the original hole. Even a proper repair wouldn't cover that mess. Yes it is limited edition, but that damage that was hidden is not cool by me. He will probably relist it. If you want it for $875 I can give you his username and you can message him. Just not a $900 guitar to me.
LOL Nice. Believe me, I considered repairing it, but the back of the neck has little dents running the whole length of the back of it that you feel while playing. Just too much wrong with it for me to want to keep it even with being somewhat rare. I would rather pay a bit more for one with less wrong with it.
johnnyseven wrote:Don't send it back until ebay has dealt with the case and come to a conclusion. Just in case the rule in his favour, then you'll be down a guitar and your cash.
If you hit the Puyallup area, let me know. I will buy you a beer. I checked with eBay and if I had not done the case and waited for him to confirm he was issuing a full refund, they could not have promised a refund and I would be out a guitar and the cash.
The seller did agree to refund my money in the case, so it should be all good. Just need to ship it back with tracking and signature confirmation and wait for it to get to him.
