450 for CIJ Japanese Jag or 550 for classic player?

BillClay · Post by **BillClay** » Wed May 09, 2012 3:58 pm

Both candy apple red, but the Japanese has got the matching headstock which is an ultra turn on. On the other hand, I wouldn't have to upgrade pickups and bridge on the CP. Which has a bigger neck/ which would you buy/ why am I typing this while 90% asleep? fuck

mkt3000 · Post by **mkt3000** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:02 pm

I'd go Japanese Jag, since I'd be swapping out the pickups either way.

gusman2x · Post by **gusman2x** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:14 pm

Neck size will depend on age of the Japanese guitar. I believe, but may be wrong, around 98 they moved manufacture if the Made in Japan models (MIJ), and renamed them Crafted in Japan (CIJ). From what I gather, the MIJ models have skinnier necks, and the CIJ have thicker. I played a CP Jazzmaster the other week, and the neck wasn't too thick, but felt thicker than a AVRI.

If it was me, the Jap one all the way. Cheaper, matching headstock, and money left over for pups if you want.

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:14 pm

Japanese by a country mile.

aen · Post by **aen** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:31 pm

Classic player x 10000000 Because it WORKS right away. It also sounds like a guitar right away, instead of electric barbed wire in your eyes.
Well, I don't know about nek size on those. Seems pretty comparable.

weeping_moon · Post by **weeping_moon** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:59 pm

BillClay wrote:Both candy apple red, but the Japanese has got the matching headstock which is an ultra turn on. On the other hand, I wouldn't have to upgrade pickups and bridge on the CP. Which has a bigger neck/ which would you buy/ why am I typing this while 90% asleep? fuck

what kind of necks are these?

the pickups i wouldnt care about.
but i would pick the one with matching headstock!!!!!

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Wed May 09, 2012 5:02 pm

one has a 7.25 radius (japanese), the other 9.5 (mexican), if that has a bearing.

weeping_moon · Post by **weeping_moon** » Wed May 09, 2012 5:06 pm

stewart wrote:one has a 7.25 radius (japanese), the other 9.5 (mexican), if that has a bearing.

then 7.25 radius and the matching headstock.

singlepup · Post by **singlepup** » Wed May 09, 2012 5:30 pm

MIJ. May not "work right away," but i like the feel of 'em more.

Def do a pup swap asap to avoid barbed wire in ocular cavities.

BillClay · Post by **BillClay** » Wed May 09, 2012 5:40 pm

Unnnnggggghhhhhhh! keep the opinions coming dudes, I like hearing other people's thoughts and experiences.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Wed May 09, 2012 6:11 pm

Japan for the 7.25" radius and matching headstock

Do you care about tremolo placement? Classic player will have the tremolo moved closer to the bridge and the Japan will have the traditional placement.

BillClay · Post by **BillClay** » Wed May 09, 2012 6:36 pm

I'm not going to sweat the trem placement: if I get the Japanese I'm definitely going to get a mustang bridge for it. I've played a CP before and liked the feel and sound, I just don't want to miss out on the mij if it's a better guitar and I'm not really going to get a chance to play both and compare.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Wed May 09, 2012 6:44 pm

CP is better out of the box, but with a little TLC (pickup change / bridge) I think the Japanese is a much nicer instrument long term. In fact I think the Japanese make the best instruments out there IMO.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Wed May 09, 2012 6:56 pm

I only brought up the trem placement because it is a deal breaker for a lot of people.

BearBoy · Post by **BearBoy** » Wed May 09, 2012 7:00 pm

I'd get the Japanese one for the vintage radius and matching headstock. You can swap bridges and pick ups fairly easily but it's not so easy to sort out a matching headstock...

Plus, it's cheaper so you would have extra cash for any upgrades you felt necessary (I'd play it first before deciding what, if anything, needs changing).

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Wed May 09, 2012 7:14 pm

I'd buy Japanese any day.

corpusjonsey · Post by **corpusjonsey** » Wed May 09, 2012 7:26 pm

Japanese > Mexican. Hands down.

ellengtrgrl · Post by **ellengtrgrl** » Wed May 09, 2012 7:46 pm

I've had both (CP, and MIJ). It's going to come down to what feels best to you. Some players just do not gel with 7.25" radius necks. Me?, I had no problem with the necks on either the CP, the '90 MIJ I had (back in 1990), or my late and lamented '66 CIJ Reissue. But, I will agree that the pickups in my CP were much better than the pickups in either my 90 MIJ (which were kind of wimpy sounding, and horribly microphonic), or my CIJ, '66 Reissue (which sounded kind of shrill - at the time I sold it due to a money crunch, I was seriously looking into replacing the pickups).

BillClay · Post by **BillClay** » Wed May 09, 2012 8:17 pm

^
Which had a thicker neck? Hardware,bridge, and pickups I can change. Radius doesn't matter, I can handle 7-12, I just want something with a chunky neck.

Like I said, I'm not going to be able to compare the two in person which blows

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Wed May 09, 2012 8:49 pm

my cp jag has a pretty chunky neck.

450 for CIJ Japanese Jag or 550 for classic player?

450 for CIJ Japanese Jag or 550 for classic player?

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