True bypass Micro POG?

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:27 am

The Micro POG is winking lustfully at me but it's not true bypass.

Is there such a pedal? One octave up, one down, polyphonic and true bypass?

sp3k · Post by **sp3k** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:31 am

why do you need true bypass? some electro harmonix pedals need isolated power, but the bypass is always nice...

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:33 am

sp3k wrote:why do you need true bypass? some electro harmonix pedals need isolated power, but the bypass is always nice...

'Cos I'm incredibly anal; everything else on my board is TB.

wwrrss · Post by **wwrrss** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:36 am

Noisy Cat wrote:
sp3k wrote:why do you need true bypass? some electro harmonix pedals need isolated power, but the bypass is always nice...
'Cos I'm incredibly anal; everything else on my board is TB.

+

You'd probably find that adding a buffered pedal will make your guitar sound better.

sp3k · Post by **sp3k** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:37 am

Noisy Cat wrote:
'Cos I'm incredibly anal; everything else on my board is TB.

how many pedals do you have? everything being TB can make your guitar sound worse... a guitar signal is kind of weak, if it has to go to lots of cables and pedals that don't have buffers you're going to lose "sound quality"

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:39 am

sp3k wrote:how many pedals do you have? everything being TB can make your guitar sound worse... a guitar signal is kind of weak, if it has to go to lots of cables and pedals that don't have buffers you're going to lose "sound quality"

Not that many; and with the shortest possible cable connections between them.

sp3k · Post by **sp3k** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:45 am

are you sure all those ehx are TB? i thought most of their stuff wasn't. But that's probably enough pedals to make your sound lose some stuff.

nice board btw!

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:49 am

sp3k wrote:are you sure all those ehx are TB?

Yes, they're all deffo TB.

sp3k wrote:But that's probably enough pedals to make your sound lose some stuff.

Hmmm... *strokes chins*

sp3k wrote:nice board btw!

Thanks!

wwrrss · Post by **wwrrss** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:51 am

Noisy Cat wrote:
sp3k wrote:are you sure all those ehx are TB?
Yes, they're all deffo TB.
sp3k wrote:But that's probably enough pedals to make your sound lose some stuff.
Hmmm... *strokes chins*
sp3k wrote:nice board btw!
Thanks!

I thought everyone knew TB was a big load of old arse these days, hence the amount of people now selling Klon Buffers as standalone units.

George · Post by **George** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:20 pm

If they're all tb i'd be worried your cleans sound dull. I would most definitely stick a buffer at the start of that chain, like a boss or korg tuner.

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:26 pm

George wrote:If they're all tb i'd be worried your cleans sound dull. I would most definitely stick a buffer at the start of that chain, like a boss or korg tuner.

... or a Micro Pog

Post by **Doog** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:39 pm

Buffer'd = better'D

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:39 pm

Doog wrote:Buffer'd = better'D

I thought it "sucked tone"?

George · Post by **George** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:45 pm

Play clean through your chain, the play straight into your amp. Repeat. Straight in will probably be louder with more high end. If not, PROVE IT

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:47 pm

George wrote:Play clean through your chain, the play straight into your amp. Repeat. Straight in will probably be louder with more high end. If not, PROVE IT

Yeah, I've just done it and you're right.

Edit: slightly less high end; volume drop barely noticeable (if at all)

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:48 pm

What about a tb compressor at the start of the chain? That'll boost the cleans.

Post by **Doog** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:49 pm

It's more the high end attenuation inherent with running a signal through lots of cables. Even a TB compressor with onboard EQ won't be able to claw those highs back; it's pure physics.

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:52 pm

Doog wrote:It's more the high end attenuation inherent with running a signal through lots of cables.

But look at the actual length of the signal through my board - it's easily less than a metre...?

George · Post by **George** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:53 pm

You need to Read an article on the difference between tb and buffers cos i dont think you understand. Then get a korg or boss tuner. They have a good buffer built in. Problem solved.

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:56 pm

George wrote:You need to Read an articles on the difference between tb and buffers cos i dont think you understand. Then get a korg or boss tuner. They have a good buffer built in. Problem solved.

So many article are conflicting though. Read the last line of this