Should I jump on this CIJ Mustang?
Moderated By: mods
Should I jump on this CIJ Mustang?
Is this a screaming deal or am I missing something?
I've got a chance to buy a Mustang RI with hard case for $450, shipped. I have not played it, it would be shipped from a nearby state.
It looks to be a '65 model. It is a stock CIJ. Serial is R073284, which I think makes it a 2004-2005 model.
Does anyone how the necks are on the 2004-5 years? I think they are closer to "C" and fatter than the earlier RI years.
Let me know what you think. I need to decide on this TODAY!! Thanks.
============================================================================
I've got a chance to buy a Mustang RI with hard case for $450, shipped. I have not played it, it would be shipped from a nearby state.
It looks to be a '65 model. It is a stock CIJ. Serial is R073284, which I think makes it a 2004-2005 model.
Does anyone how the necks are on the 2004-5 years? I think they are closer to "C" and fatter than the earlier RI years.
Let me know what you think. I need to decide on this TODAY!! Thanks.
============================================================================
-
- .
- Posts: 1401
- Joined: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:44 am
Re: Should I jump on this CIJ Mustang?
Yep do it! With hardcase and all! Thats a great find!
Ohh wait..... Are the neck straight, and the vol plastic button is missing. How about the electronics inside the guitar?
Ohh wait..... Are the neck straight, and the vol plastic button is missing. How about the electronics inside the guitar?
-
- .
- Posts: 1401
- Joined: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:44 am
-
- .
- Posts: 1401
- Joined: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:44 am
- Concretebadger
- .
- Posts: 2111
- Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:29 pm
- Location: Leeds Leeds LEEDS
- Contact:
There's a thing called a truss rod, and a neck should never be dead straight !!! You need some relief in the neck to avoid fret buzz, and tuning shouldn't really be affected either ... as that's down to intonation at the bridge end.weeping_moon wrote:what do you mean? of course the neck has to be straight otherwise it will not go in-tune..othomas2 wrote:Non of that ^^ really matter IMO as they can be easily resolved.
If you like it... it sounds like a good deal.
any better (sharper) pictures of the guitar?
If it's twisted that's another matter...
Yes!
edit: Glad to see you purchased it.
edit: Glad to see you purchased it.
Last edited by speedfish on Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Disciple of Pain
"I'm like the monkey screwing the skunk. I haven't had enough, but I've about had all that I can stand!"
"Born to Lose. Live to Win." Lemmy Kilmister
"I'm like the monkey screwing the skunk. I haven't had enough, but I've about had all that I can stand!"
"Born to Lose. Live to Win." Lemmy Kilmister
[There's a thing called a truss rod, and a neck should never be dead straight !!! You need some relief in the neck to avoid fret buzz, and tuning shouldn't really be affected either ... as that's down to intonation at the bridge end.
I disagree. Neck relief is a matter of preference. I prefer a flat "dead straight" neck vs one with relief in the middle. A flat neck will intonate better than one with relief in the middle and plays faster as well. As long as the neck isn't twisted and you have no proud frets you shouldn't have any buzzing with a flat neck. A fret dressing or leveling may be necessary if you are experiencing buzzing with a flat neck. However, buzzing can also occur at the nut due to the grooves being cut to deep. This can be fixed by shimming or replacing the nut. Fender recommends and sets up their guitars with relief before shipping but it's just not my cup of tea.
Cheers!
I disagree. Neck relief is a matter of preference. I prefer a flat "dead straight" neck vs one with relief in the middle. A flat neck will intonate better than one with relief in the middle and plays faster as well. As long as the neck isn't twisted and you have no proud frets you shouldn't have any buzzing with a flat neck. A fret dressing or leveling may be necessary if you are experiencing buzzing with a flat neck. However, buzzing can also occur at the nut due to the grooves being cut to deep. This can be fixed by shimming or replacing the nut. Fender recommends and sets up their guitars with relief before shipping but it's just not my cup of tea.
Cheers!
Disciple of Pain
"I'm like the monkey screwing the skunk. I haven't had enough, but I've about had all that I can stand!"
"Born to Lose. Live to Win." Lemmy Kilmister
"I'm like the monkey screwing the skunk. I haven't had enough, but I've about had all that I can stand!"
"Born to Lose. Live to Win." Lemmy Kilmister
You'll minimise a lot of potential buzzing by having even a tiny bit of relief... which is what I do with mine, which is recommended by just about everyone.
I've set up 100s of guitars and generally you need the relief... I don't think modern manufacturers pay enough attention to frets, and really do requite a specialist fret dress.
Try setting a 7.5" radius neck dead straight, setting the action relatively low and fully bending a note on the G,B,E above the 12th fret. It'll choke out for sure.
it really depends on the player... ones mans buzz vs another mans buzz, could be worlds apart... it is subjective, and again what is audible through an amp. Generally speaking I think you need some relief.
I've set up 100s of guitars and generally you need the relief... I don't think modern manufacturers pay enough attention to frets, and really do requite a specialist fret dress.
Try setting a 7.5" radius neck dead straight, setting the action relatively low and fully bending a note on the G,B,E above the 12th fret. It'll choke out for sure.
it really depends on the player... ones mans buzz vs another mans buzz, could be worlds apart... it is subjective, and again what is audible through an amp. Generally speaking I think you need some relief.
othomas2 wrote:You'll minimise a lot of potential buzzing by having even a tiny bit of relief... which is what I do with mine, which is recommended by just about everyone.
I've set up 100s of guitars and generally you need the relief... I don't think modern manufacturers pay enough attention to frets, and really do requite a specialist fret dress.
Try setting a 7.5" radius neck dead straight, setting the action relatively low and fully bending a note on the G,B,E above the 12th fret. It'll choke out for sure.
it really depends on the player... ones mans buzz vs another mans buzz, could be worlds apart... it is subjective, and again what is audible through an amp. Generally speaking I think you need some relief.
I agree with all the above. A tiny bit of relief does simplify setting up a guitar and can minimize or prevent buzz, but if you have the time and the right tools isn't necessary. I would imagine that most players that come into your shop wouldn't care to spend the money that it would require of your time to set up their neck as I have described. A "custom shop setup" goes above and beyond what is required of a "standard setup". Most players can't tell or don't know the difference anyway. Haven't experienced what you describe with the 7.25" radius, but had a similar problem with a 9.5" radius neck recently that I straightened, I remedied it by placing a shim just behind the two top neck screws.
Cheers!
Disciple of Pain
"I'm like the monkey screwing the skunk. I haven't had enough, but I've about had all that I can stand!"
"Born to Lose. Live to Win." Lemmy Kilmister
"I'm like the monkey screwing the skunk. I haven't had enough, but I've about had all that I can stand!"
"Born to Lose. Live to Win." Lemmy Kilmister