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Reviews: Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar (Surf Green and CAR)

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I've been a long time lurker here on ShortScale, so I figured it would be best to have some contributions for my first few posts. Since I've had some experience with the new VM offsets, I'll be posting my reviews - each detailed with pics and demos.

First up, my Surf Green VM Jag.

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Now, out of the box I was shocked. Intonation was good, string height was just about right, and it was easily playable - even with the ultra cheap, thin strings that were on it. Even with these strings it sounded fantastic. Nice and chime-like cleans, biting dirt, and a nice bit of jangle, while keeping thickness.

That being said, the strings HAD to go. There was corrosion on them here and there, they're super thin (feel like 9's, and other people have mentioned them being 9's as well), and they're just not great feeling. I popped on a set of my usual D'Addario 11's and the difference was huge. All the good aspects of the tone and playability got better, and the negatives (a bit of buzz from the thin strings, tuning being off a touch after trem use) were gone. If you play one of these, don't write it off just because of the garbage stock strings.

On to fit and finish, I was impressed again. The guitar overall feels very solid - just as much as my CIJ Jag, or my old CP Jag, though it's about two pounds lighter than either of them. The hardware is all secured perfectly, and even the pickguard screws are nice and straight, which I can't even say for my CIJ.
The neck finish is perfect for me - glossy, but not too thick. It has a real quality feel to it, and I prefer the finish to both the CIJ and CP Jag. It almost reminds me of a thin gloss finish that has just the slightest bit of steel wool sanding - not enough to take off the gloss, but enough to smooth the finish just enough to make it feel great in your hand. It's worth noting that the neck feels different than the older VM Jaguar HH - I compared them, and the newer VM definitely has a better feel to it.
Fret ends are very well done, and I can't find a single buzzy spot on the neck. I'm really, really digging the neck, and it was a pleasant surprise to have it feel so nice.

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The body's finish is gorgeous - a classic surf green, and not nearly as faded as the stock photos make it seem. It's not quite dead-on vintage, but it's close. The pictures, I feel, show it accurately - at least on my screen. There are no major blems in it (unlike my VM Jag HH, which has scattered black specs here and there in the Fiesta Red finish), and it has a great look to it. The quality difference between this VM Jag and the former Jag HH is pretty big. While the HH is a good guitar, it definitely doesn't feel as nice as the new VM Jag.

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The pickguard isn't perfect - though the white looks nice on the Jag, so it'll stay. AVRI/Classic Player guards fit perfectly, so swapping them out won't be an issue at all. The stock guard has some sloppy edges, but that's about the extent of it. Nothing terrible, but it's definitely not going to compare to an AVRI guard.

As for hardware, which is a major concern for a lot of people, I see nothing wrong with the stock stuff. The plates are just as nice as those on a Classic Player, the switches feel nice and solid, the trem is nice and smooth, and the bridge is surprisingly stable. I figured it would need loc-tite from the start, but it's holding up perfectly.
The tuners are very solid as well - with the 11's on it I'm having no tuning trouble whatsoever - even with fairly heavy trem use.

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Now, onto sound. I'm going to say now - I love the pickups and they're staying. I know a ton of people will probably toss in Novaks or similar Jag pups, but for me these stock ones sound great. I prefer them to those in my old CP Jag, as well as the my CIJ's pickups. They're nice and balanced, while keeping the signature sound of a Jaguar. I dig them - a lot.

I recorded two demos, cycling through all combinations on the pickups. Both demos cycle through in this order: Bridge, Both, Neck, Bridge (Bass Cut On), Both (Bass Cut On), Neck (Bass Cut On), Rhythm Circuit. The first demo is clean, the second demo is dirty, using one of my Soviet overdrives for some dirt.

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Dirty:
http://bit.ly/L8eVmn

Overall, I'm incredibly happy with this Jag. It sounds great, plays great, and looks great. At $300 it's a steal, and I can't recommend it enough.
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Alongside my VM Jazzmaster, I also received my CAR VM Jaguar yesterday. My first CAR Jag arrived as a trainwreck of blems, dents, black marks, paint chips in the finish, and a twisted neck or neck pocket. It went back, and this is the replacement I received.

To my relief, it was flawless out of the box. No marks, not neck issues, just a nice, clean, CAR finish, and perfect Jaguar tones. It's a slightly different shade than my VM Jazzmaster's CAR, so I'd imagine they were finished at different times. It's darker, and definitely more red - though it still has a bit of vintage tint to it.

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It weighs in around the same as my Surf Green VM Jag - roughly 7.5-8lbs. Not too bad, but enough to feel substantial.

As many have seen, the pickups on the VM Jags are vintage style, but with higher output. This one matches my Surf Green Jag pretty closely, though the bridge isn't quite as hot. I'm guessing there's a bit of variation in the output on them.

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It needed some setup work, as expected, out of the box. Intonation, bridge height, and of course, new strings. Other than that it was good to go. I was able to get the action incredibly low on it - as in shredder low. I might actually raise it, just because it's almost *too* low, and far beyond what I'm used to.

As with my other VM Jag, the neck is excellent with great fretwork. It's the same C shape as the first, which, IMO, is more comfortable than a CIJ or CP neck. Great playability, and a solid neck.

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The pickguard on this Jag is perfect. Nice and clean edges, good cut, etc. I'll only change it once I find a nice tort guard for it. Until then, I'm happy with the white.

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Hardware is all very solid. While my first VM Jag has some angled screws and such, this one has almost all of them nice and straight. I can't even say that much for my CIJ Jaguar.

The bridge on this one is buzz free as well, and set up easily. It works really smoothly with the trem, which, as I said in my other reviews, is nice and solid. I'd only change the stock trem in the event that I have a serious need for a lock. I can definitely see harder players swapping the bridge, but for my style it works fine.

The metal plates are nice - easily the same level of quality that you'd see on a CP or CIJ Jag.

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As with the Jazzmaster, the only things on it that feel cheap are the knobs. They're cheap plastic, and while they work just fine, they aren't as nice as they could be. Personally, I don't mind and won't change them unless they break. Someone else might be bothered by them though.

Tuners are nice and solid, as I said in my other reviews. Vintage style, and they're fairly tight. They hold up decently with trem use - as long as the setup is good.

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That about sums it up. Another definite recommendation from me for these Vintage Modified offsets. I'd say play in person if possible, but ordering online shouldn't scare you off. Just be sure to order from a place with a good return policy in the event of defects!

Demo: Bridge>Bridge+Bass Cut>Both>Both+Bass Cut>Neck>Neck+Bass Cut>Rhythm Circuit

Hopefully this helps answer any questions that people interested in these have!

EDIT: New pics with its AVRI Tort guard on.

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Post by Johnny Noir »

very nice review!
lots of details and great pictures :)

do you have some microphonic issues when you use a big muff (or another big dist) with a high gain and level? compare to the CP and cij.
i'm an overdrive guy :wink:
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excellent reviews and great photos. *thumbs aloft*
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Great pics, useful review, welcome to the forum :)
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sorry off topic :?

i love the avatar picture of Stewart. Your jag looks hot. Where are you? it's a shower curtain? :shock: :lol:
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Johnny Noir wrote:sorry off topic :?

i love the avatar picture of Stewart. Your jag looks hot. Where are you? it's a shower curtain? :shock: :lol:
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Super.

Can I ask why you got 2 jags? A backup? Planning to mod one?
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stewart wrote:
Johnny Noir wrote:sorry off topic :?

i love the avatar picture of Stewart. Your jag looks hot. Where are you? it's a shower curtain? :shock: :lol:
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Johnny Noir wrote:very nice review!
lots of details and great pictures :)

do you have some microphonic issues when you use a big muff (or another big dist) with a high gain and level? compare to the CP and cij.
i'm an overdrive guy :wink:
That's the funny thing - the two Jags respond quite differently. The Surf Green will feedback more easily. It's still controllable, but if I kick on one of my heavier fuzzes (I mainly use one of my 3.14s), it lets me use some feedback decently in a good way.

The CAR almost seems lower output on the bridge, and I've yet to get it to really feedback at all. Even at loud band volumes with heavy fuzz, or even stacked fuzzes.

I know some people are having microphonic issues with them, but mine seem just fine. And I'm certainly no newbie to fuzz use. :wink:
DanHeron wrote:Super.

Can I ask why you got 2 jags? A backup? Planning to mod one?
Well, I'm a Jaguar fiend. I love Jaguars, so they're essentially all I play. I've wanted a surf green Jaguar for years, so it was a must-buy. I also recently sold a CAR Classic Player, which I really missed the finish of.

As of now, the only mod planned is a nice tort guard on the CAR. I might stick lipstick pickups in one of them down the road, but for now I'm digging them stock. They've already become my "main" guitars (including over my CIJ Jag, and the CP I sold), so having two options for my base sound works out nicely. It's probably unnecessary, but they're my two favorite finishes and I couldn't resist the price.

Plus I got a pretty amazing deal, so there was no real reason not to go for the second Jag.
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Post by cobascis »

A+ post, dude. Interesting about the quality control. Play before you buy, it seems.
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An A-1 transition from lurker to poster, dearest Noismaker!

Spooky indeed to hear about night-and-day QC going on there, but I fear a GAS blast coming from many a forumite already.
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ultratwin wrote:An A-1 transition from lurker to poster, dearest Noismaker!

Spooky indeed to hear about night-and-day QC going on there, but I fear a GAS blast coming from many a forumite already.
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I'd definitely play before buying if possible. Or at the least order from a place with a solid return policy.
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ultratwin wrote:Spooky indeed to hear about night-and-day QC going on there,
Gusman said he was sold the pig when when they shipped one from another store. That's two counts of 'try before you buy' and worth knowing.

Reeeally tempted with these now. I've just sold about six guitars so i could justify one i think, but still thinking of a Marauder though its marginally out of the ideal price range.
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Fran wrote:
ultratwin wrote:Spooky indeed to hear about night-and-day QC going on there,
Gusman said he was sold the pig when when they shipped one from another store. That's two counts of 'try before you buy' and worth knowing.

Reeeally tempted with these now. I've just sold about six guitars so i could justify one i think, but still thinking of a Marauder though its marginally out of the ideal price range.
I've thought of picking up a Marauder as well - though that damn triple bucker nonsense puts me off every time.

On the VMs, keep an eye out for sales and such. If you aren't put off by ordering, you can get some pretty stellar deals. I got my last two at $250 each without even trying. Add in the Guitar Center giftcards I had piled up, and I ended up at just about $300 out of pocket for two of them.
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NoisemakerEffects wrote:As of now, the only mod planned is a nice tort guard on the CAR. I might stick lipstick pickups in one of them down the road,
Do both of those to the CAR! I've seen the combo before and it looked amazing.

Great pictures too, you've made them look amazing!
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i would do many a dirty things for one of these.
as in... i WILL do many a dirty things for one of these.

perfect colors. and all.
$299? screw them US guys.
NEED.

fuckin' mexico. :x
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Pacafeliz wrote:i would do many a dirty things for one of these.
as in... i WILL do many a dirty things for one of these.

perfect colors. and all.
$299? screw them US guys.
NEED.

fuckin' mexico. :x
What kind of pricing do they have going down there? I shipped a CP Jag to Australia a few weeks ago, and it was no big deal. I think it cost like $70USD after insurance.

Depending on the cost there, it might be cheaper to just have someone mail you one. Plus with it being fairly easy to get them for $250, it might still come out around the $300 mark after shipping.
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Post by Pacafeliz »

thanks!
they're not available here, yet. but i guess they will be being sold for something abusive, like usual. i'd guess around $400-450 new. *pfft*

i'll try to sell some stuff to get my hands on some $$$.... or, you tell me what kind of dirty things you're into! :lol: :wink:

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