Marr Jaguar: how thick is the neck? EDIT: just thick enough

mastermorya · Post by **mastermorya** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:34 pm

I may spend my end of the year scheckels on a guitar. I've had my eye on the Marr Jaguar. I know there is that long thread from months back about it, but it is 90% speculation and commentary, a few pics and nearly zero information based upon first-hand experience.

My question is specific: have you played the Marr Jaguar? If you did, what was the neck like? How different in terms of thickness is it from the 62 AVRI neck? I have a 62 AVRI JM; that's my preferred neck thickness. I could get along with a slightly thicker neck but I do not like baseball bat necks (e.g.: the 2012 American Standard Strat necks, which I find barbarously too thick).

Thanks!

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:39 pm

It feels very similar to my 2002 CIJ Jag neck. Very average in terms of thickness etc. Very little to upset.

I've not played an AVRI Jag / Jazz neck for a long time but from memory that is slightly boulder/thicker than a CIJ Jag.

mastermorya · Post by **mastermorya** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:47 pm

Thanks. My AVRI JM is a 2008. It seems to have a pretty skinnyish neck. I posted in OSG as well; I think my wife may be about to order one which why I have a sense of urgency!

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:54 pm

I work in a shop that sells them, and the majority of the comments are from those saying how much they like the neck...

I can't see how you could dislike it, but some folk do get uptight about neck shape. It's not something I dwell to much on.

Some customers think they want thick or thin, but it usually it comes down to the shape mainly.

You can have a thick neck that is comfortable, and thin neck that is comfortable for one set of hands I find.

The neck shape on the Marr is just average / normal to me. Perhaps because it does feel like my CIJ Jag.

I've played other CIJ Jags that feel more different.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:24 pm

Nabbed from Harmony Central, but here's one against an AVRI Jazzmaster (on the left). Looks pretty chunky to me.

mastermorya · Post by **mastermorya** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:31 pm

that is a significant difference. I wish I could try it out.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:50 pm

benecol wrote:Nabbed from Harmony Central, but here's one against an AVRI Jazzmaster (on the left). Looks pretty chunky to me.

WOAH, that does look thick. Shows how much attention I take. AVRI must be thin ??

mastermorya · Post by **mastermorya** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:01 am

Go to work and do a detailed comparison!

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:05 am

What would you like me to compare it to ? There are no AVRI Jags or Jazzys....

These are the Fender offsets & Shortscales... excluding the Squiers.

mastermorya · Post by **mastermorya** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:55 am

Hmm. Among those the only thing I've played is the CP JM, and the Blacktop JM. If you have a 2012 American Standard Strat, I'd be interested in how that compares too...

luciguci · Post by **luciguci** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:23 am

othomas2 wrote:What would you like me to compare it to ? There are no AVRI Jags or Jazzys....

These are the Fender offsets & Shortscales... excluding the Squiers.

Totally off topic, but holy fucking shit, I would love that to be my local music shop.

frettedlefty · Post by **frettedlefty** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:31 am

Haha seriously. That's a rare sight, least in the shops near me.

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:39 am

frettedlefty wrote:Haha seriously. That's a rare sight, least in the shops near me.

Ditto.

My shop's had 2 '66 Classic Jaguars (one I bought, and one just like it), one Blacktop Jaguar, one Mustang ('round 2004), a Blacktop Jazzmaster, an Elvis Costello Jazzmaster (around '08-'09), and a Classic Player Jaguar HH and Jazzmaster. That covers all of the offsets/shortscales my local stores have had in since I started looking around 1994.

luciguci · Post by **luciguci** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:48 am

Nearest GC to me only ever had a Blacktop JM (with all of the saddles falling off/ not even intonated), two Blacktop Jags, teh KURDTZSTANG in lefty and eventually righty, teh KURDTZ Jag, and two old style VM Jaguars. All at separate times though.

MMPicker · Post by **MMPicker** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:12 am

I played the Marr in a shop recently, I found the neck thicker than I am accustomed to, and I didn't care for that aspect, in the brief time I was checking it out.
My personal guitars are a 65 Fender Musicmaster II and a CP Jaguar.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:19 am

In the video, Johnny spends a fair amount of time discussing the neck specs. He modeled it after a particular 1965 Jaguar neck he has. He describes as chunkier than a standard Jaguar neck and adding to the sound.

He talks about the neck at 10:25
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Feature wise, Johnny's Jaguar is awesome and I want to try one out myself.

singlepup · Post by **singlepup** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:10 am

A friend of mine tried the Marr Jag at GC San Francisco. He said he loved the neck and felt it was more comfortable (read: thinner?) than other Jag necks he'd tried before.

I will say I've found that there's a big difference between AVRI Jag and JM necks. Jag necks always feel thicker to me (may just be shape, as Owen has said). Kinda like comparing apples and oranges. This has kept me away from Jags for the most part.

goldengurls · Post by **goldengurls** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:31 pm

this model has a thinner neck than the other avri's which are all too fat for me.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:47 pm

goldengurls wrote:this model has a thinner neck than the other avri's which are all too fat for me.

LOL?

Apparently right is JM and left is AVRI

goldengurls · Post by **goldengurls** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:56 pm

hmm maybe it's a fret difference? All the avri's i have played weren't very friendly.