Dual Output, Three Humbucker, Black, Jaguar Project

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:43 am

Nah. It's ok Coot. It's only a tremolo rout too. It will be hidden and just have to fit. I have a pretty slim router bit. Just gotta be careful. Thanks though man.

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:00 am

Taped it up. Might of went a little overboard on tape but I didn't wanna fully gut the body so I just took off the Pickguard and bridge and made sure no sawdust will get in it. But... This thing has some serious pitting in spots... Ugh. The previos owner must of just dripped sweat like crazy... All the mounting screws are gross and need replacing, under the Pickguard was nasty, green, white, NASTY. It's not a big deal. I really cleaned it all up. Not feeling the Pickguard. I am thinking an anodized gold guard if I use the humbuckers and mint green if I use jag pickups.

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MattK · Post by **MattK** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:20 am

I know it's probably the camera, but is that trem rout outline straight?

I might have a couple of MIJ push fit Jag knobs if you want them, should I check?

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:11 pm

MatthewK wrote:I know it's probably the camera, but is that trem rout outline straight?

I might have a couple of MIJ push fit Jag knobs if you want them, should I check?

That would be awesome man! Thanks. I just have these two black strat knobs for it. And I don't know. I feel like it is a tab bit too. The part where the locking mechanism would go. But I traced it exactly to HNBs rout on his old green jaguar. Maybe the one corner is just more round then the other.

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:07 pm

So after about 20 mins of routing and a battle scar to my routers cable

I got the body routed. Checked it to fit and it did. Got everything cleaned up all the tape off and back on my workbench. Went to put it on and FUCK. I didn't check two of the holes so back to the garage, router out, everything else out, retaped,and routed again. This time perfect. I think it came out pretty good. This is only the 5th time routing stuff and this was the most expensive out of all of them. My template worked out pretty alright. Its just the taddest bit crooked but I put strings on it and it lines up great and works perfectly. I didn't have a router bit long enough to do the full deep rout so I did it to its max thread length and then lowered and routed a smaller hole in the center for the spring screw. Drilled the mounting holes and screwed it on. I ended up throwing the old guard to the side. It was pretty scratched up and the mounting screws and ring was corroded right to it. Yuck. what a pain in the ass it was to clean up all the pitting. I then taped everything down because the screws were corroded as well. But then I found some new screws floating around. So I just screwed the plates down and taped the pickups down with electrical tape. It looks pretty cool. The last pictures are without the pickguard. Overall the only problem with this guitar was the pitting to the screws and electronics. The chrome is all perfect though and I cleaned the pitting. The body and neck are in great shape with barely any imperfections. Great guitar for $300.00 I am thinking an annodized gold guard with the humbuckers or a mint green guard with jag pickups. Haven't decided yet. Not a big fan of these humbuckers anyway. Give me some suggestions please! (:

First go

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Second go

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Money Shots!

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Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:19 pm

Some ideas.. Maybe wide ranges. Used them because there are no covered pickups in the dressing room. what do you guys think?

Jaguar 1 by punkacc9, on Flickr

Jaguar 3 by punkacc9, on Flickr

Jaguar 2 by punkacc9, on Flickr

Jaguar 4 by punkacc9, on Flickr

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stewart · Post by **stewart** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:31 pm

dunno, depends if you want singles or buckers. do an mint guard though.

James · Post by **James** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:55 pm

Yeah definitely stick to mint. Choose the pickup type by sound and then work out the covers to suit the look.

Nice job on the trem.

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:14 pm

James wrote:Yeah definitely stick to mint. Choose the pickup type by sound and then work out the covers to suit the look.

Nice job on the trem.

Thanks. And I think I am gonna go with a mint guard and use the humbuckers but mount them to the guard instead of the rings. Also I was thinking of putting a single coil or jaguar pickup in the middle position. Maybe another humbucker but a chrome GFS Wide Range humbucker size pickup. Then have each switch turn on a pickup.

Like these.

Jaguar 6 by punkacc9, on Flickr

Jaguar 7 by punkacc9, on Flickr

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:02 pm

Made up my mind. Doing this:

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Jaguar 3 Configuration by punkacc9, on Flickr

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:47 pm

Because I want to be complicated as fuck, have spare shit and think a dual output guitar would be cool.... I'm gonna do this

Jaguar 3 Configuration (2 output) by punkacc9, on Flickr

The strangle would become a killswitch for the second output which would have the middle pickup always on and have the volume and tone control for. and the 1st output would still have the same configuration as you see but no strangle. The middle could be off on the 1st output and on on the second output or on in both outputs. It's crazy. It's getting the sound of two guitarists with two different amps from one guitar player! LANK to my diagram:

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:33 pm

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Added the 2nd output

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James · Post by **James** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:45 pm

I think maybe you're over-complicating the switching and thinking 'what can I use these switches for' rather than 'what can these switches do that would be useful'. Perhaps you should take a step back and stop to think about how you'd use the guitar and then what the switches you have available can help you in making that versatile, rather than creating versatility for the sake of it that might end up being unused.

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm

James wrote:I think maybe you're over-complicating the switching and thinking 'what can I use these switches for' rather than 'what can these switches do that would be useful'. Perhaps you should take a step back and stop to think about how you'd use the guitar and then what the switches you have available can help you in making that versatile, rather than creating versatility for the sake of it that might end up being unused.

Well it will just have an on and off switch for each pickup and a seperate volume and tone control for the middle pickup (kind of a rhythm circuit) for the first output. Then the second output will just be for the middle pickup and there is a killswitch that turns that output on. Basically I am only getting rid of the strangle switch. The rhythm switch acts with the middle pickup being on. The reason for dual outputs is to have two amps with two different sounds. So two guitarists or a guitarist and a bassist. In my case the second one. We don't have a bass player so we will be using a bass octave on the second output in to another amp to fill the bass. Kinda like Scott Lucas of Local H did.

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:59 pm

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theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:33 pm

Middle pickup is best pickup, so I can dig it. You could really get some huge sondz out of that.

I can't wait 'til this sucker is in the classifieds!

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:56 pm

theshadowofseattle wrote:Middle pickup is best pickup, so I can dig it. You could really get some huge sondz out of that.

I can't wait 'til this sucker is in the classifieds!

LOL. Hell yeah. This is gonna be sweet. I was debating on a bass pickup but said fuck it. I could use two guitars or a guitar and bass this way. I am also gonna make two kill switch pedals out of project boxes (one for guitar and one for bass) I think I will still keep the killswitch though for the 2nd output in the rhythm plate because when the pickups are off in the 1st output they act as a killswitch. I want to have the ability to turn them both on or one on and the other off while sitting when we practice without using pedals. Pedals will just make it easier when playing a full song and playing live. If anyone has pedal switches they wanna sell me or if anyone has some cheep kill switch pedals let me know. I will buy them off ya!

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:01 pm

In terms of not buying a bunch of pedals that do the same shit, you could have a volume pedal in one signal chain and a tuner with a killswitch function in the other.

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:29 pm

theshadowofseattle wrote:In terms of not buying a bunch of pedals that do the same shit, you could have a volume pedal in one signal chain and a tuner with a killswitch function in the other.

I am thinking a pedal with two kill switches built in to it. Simple.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:36 pm

nah mane. You want more pedals. Why? Because more pedals.