Cyclone II or Mustang Special?

MMPicker · Post by **MMPicker** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:42 pm

speedfish wrote: ..there were no American made Cyclones that I am aware of.

"US Cyclone
The Cyclone was also promoted as a USA-made guitar for a brief time in 2000. The US Cyclone featured two dual-coil ceramic Vintage Noiseless single-coils and a modern 2-point synchronized vibrato with stainless steel saddles. The Custom Cyclone had similar features, but used two Gold Lace Sensor pickups with black covers and a custom vintage 2-point tremolo bridge with bent solid steel saddles. Both guitars were made at the Fender Custom Shop. These American-made Cyclones were gone at the end of 2001."

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Cyclone"

"In 2000, the Fender Cyclone debuted for sale as a USA-made guitar, although it was originally featured two years earlier at the Summer NAMM convention.

The Cyclone featured two single coil noiseless pickups with white covers and exposed pole-pieces, a two-point stainless steel vibrato with steel bridge saddles.

The vibrato unit was similar to a Stratocaster unit and the springs were in a cavity in the guitars back. There was a three-way switch, similar to those Gibson used that was place on the lower horn.

The upgraded model was named the Custom Cyclone had the same accoutrements, but had Gold Lace sensor pickups with black covers. The Cyclones had one tone and one volume control. Both potentiometers were housed on a stainless steel plate, much like that of a Jaguar. Both guitars were produced for only one year."
"http://uniqueguitar.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... clone.html"

picture:
"http://m.digimart.net/guitar/inst_detai ... DS01809772"
"http://www.j-guitar.com/product_id152152.html"
"http://homepage3.nifty.com/sinchang/mus ... tars2.html"

jagsonic · Post by **jagsonic** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:13 pm

Yeah, there are american made cyclones. But these are the ones with two singlecoils. Not the cyclone II with the three jaguarpickups. It is all mexicanmade. But with two kinds of bridgesystems (as it seems).

speedfish · Post by **speedfish** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:43 pm

MMPicker wrote:
speedfish wrote: ..there were no American made Cyclones that I am aware of.
"US Cyclone
The Cyclone was also promoted as a USA-made guitar for a brief time in 2000. The US Cyclone featured two dual-coil ceramic Vintage Noiseless single-coils and a modern 2-point synchronized vibrato with stainless steel saddles. The Custom Cyclone had similar features, but used two Gold Lace Sensor pickups with black covers and a custom vintage 2-point tremolo bridge with bent solid steel saddles. Both guitars were made at the Fender Custom Shop. These American-made Cyclones were gone at the end of 2001."

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Cyclone"

"In 2000, the Fender Cyclone debuted for sale as a USA-made guitar, although it was originally featured two years earlier at the Summer NAMM convention.

The Cyclone featured two single coil noiseless pickups with white covers and exposed pole-pieces, a two-point stainless steel vibrato with steel bridge saddles.

The vibrato unit was similar to a Stratocaster unit and the springs were in a cavity in the guitars back. There was a three-way switch, similar to those Gibson used that was place on the lower horn.

The upgraded model was named the Custom Cyclone had the same accoutrements, but had Gold Lace sensor pickups with black covers. The Cyclones had one tone and one volume control. Both potentiometers were housed on a stainless steel plate, much like that of a Jaguar. Both guitars were produced for only one year."
"http://uniqueguitar.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... clone.html"

picture:
"http://m.digimart.net/guitar/inst_detai ... DS01809772"
"http://www.j-guitar.com/product_id152152.html"
"http://homepage3.nifty.com/sinchang/mus ... tars2.html"

Edit: Cyclone II's as the original post pertains to, but good work there!

Awstin · Post by **Awstin** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:21 pm

THESE... If I am not mistaken are the U.S. Models.

jagsonic · Post by **jagsonic** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:05 pm

Yes. Very cool things.

jculpjr · Post by **jculpjr** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:27 am

I've never seen this color before
Ebay

kypdurron · Post by **kypdurron** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:21 pm

that picture may still be a photoshop mistake, but it propably doesn_t matter, if no one has ever seen a Cyclone II with that kind of hardware.

I own a Cyclone II and played the Pawn Shop Mustang in a shop. (the older japanese one).

The PS Mustang is the overall better guitar, imho. it has superior building quality, a much nicer neck and fretboard, it has pickups that work well with it and it has a ton of switching options that go from plinky single coil sounds to fat humbucker sounds. for 450 â‚¬ new it will be hard impossible to find anything better (at Fender).

But, as the others have said, it's just a new guitar. the Cyclone II is an odd rarity and you propably won't have the chance to buy another at acceptable money. and it has a trem.

the PS Mustang may become an oddball rarity too, think of how short the time was they offered the japanese ones. but it isn't exactly sought after yet.

So better buy them both

jagsonic · Post by **jagsonic** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:24 pm

kypdurron wrote:So better buy them both

oh, i think you actually caught my conflict

the only way to get out of that tight spot will be buying nothing at all

Dokterrock · Post by **Dokterrock** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:51 am

I put out a feeler thread over on OSG for my Cyclone II and I was told that $700 was not an unfair price for it. Definitely more than I expected, so 500 euros doesn't seem that crazy. I was hoping someone had an HH model they'd trade me for it but no dice.

kypdurron · Post by **kypdurron** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:18 pm

yours was the blue one that is more rare, and in pristine condition, wasn't it? 500 â‚¬ might work for these, if you sell with patience. but is definitely on the high end for a red CyII with dings and dongs. after all, these price differences are normal fluctuation on a used market. and, when you look at it rationally, 700 $ can buy you a much nicer guitar.

Dokterrock · Post by **Dokterrock** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:45 pm

Mine's the one in my avatar - it had actually been cannibalized and I restored it, so I don't actually have the original pickups or guard.

You're definitely right about how that kind of money could probably get me a nicer guitar, but damn, the number of these on the market has shrunk considerably since even a year ago when I bought it.

MMPicker · Post by **MMPicker** » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:35 pm

Just because something is rare doesn't mean I necessarily want to be playing it.
I would get the one I thought I'd rather play, personally.

These are different enough guitars that one should be able to develop a preference based on their different specs.
They are different in:
Tone- production features:pickups and pot values too I think.
Playability-related features: scale length, frets, radius, weight, switching, trems

If it were me, I would decide on that basis. Period. (Within reason; in which I would include this case).

Who cares if a guitar is some relatively small amount underpriced if I'd rather not play it.

jagsonic · Post by **jagsonic** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:49 pm

MMPicker wrote:Just because something is rare doesn't mean I necessarily want to be playing it.
I would get the one I thought I'd rather play, personally.

These are different enough guitars that one should be able to develop a preference based on their different specs.
They are different in:
Tone- production features:pickups and pot values too I think.
Playability-related features: scale length, frets, radius, weight, switching, trems

If it were me, I would decide on that basis. Period. (Within reason; in which I would include this case).

Who cares if a guitar is some relatively small amount underpriced if I'd rather not play it.

Yes, i'm totally in. After reflecting some days it will be the best to buy the guitar i've played and liked instead of buying a guitar i never had my hand, and that's the mustang special. So i think i will go for it...

jculpjr · Post by **jculpjr** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:27 pm

Punkacc9 wrote:THESE... If I am not mistaken are the U.S. Models.

Another photo of the rare beast

speedfish · Post by **speedfish** » Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:32 pm

jagsonic wrote:
MMPicker wrote:Just because something is rare doesn't mean I necessarily want to be playing it.
I would get the one I thought I'd rather play, personally.

These are different enough guitars that one should be able to develop a preference based on their different specs.
They are different in:
Tone- production features:pickups and pot values too I think.
Playability-related features: scale length, frets, radius, weight, switching, trems

If it were me, I would decide on that basis. Period. (Within reason; in which I would include this case).

Who cares if a guitar is some relatively small amount underpriced if I'd rather not play it.
Yes, i'm totally in. After reflecting some days it will be the best to buy the guitar i've played and liked instead of buying a guitar i never had my hand, and that's the mustang special. So i think i will go for it...

Well done brother.

jagsonic · Post by **jagsonic** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:23 pm

so i went to the store and wanted to buy the mustang and it was sold half an hour ago!

after having a short time of breathing, i just bought a vm jaguar

... and it was the all-time right decision! such a great playing and sounding guitar!!!

Ankhanu · Post by **Ankhanu** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:30 pm

Certainly not a bad choice at all

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