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i watched this stupid movie yesterday: The Rocker
Emma Stone plays a mustang; looks like a 70's but what the fuck they painted on it?

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Sure, she's the hottest chic in hollywood, but can she PLAY that mustang for real????
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Cymbaline wrote:Sure, she's the hottest chic in hollywood
I don't think so.

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Cymbaline wrote:Sure, she's the hottest chic in hollywood, but can she PLAY that mustang for real????
in the movie she looks like she plays for real but timidly
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lol as if someone couldn't learn to play bass in half an hour anyway
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^ this statement will cause us to fight, not with words. with fists.
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lol well for the purposes of learning it to bluff on film it would be pretty easy for an actress/actor to do. think about, a lot of spare time between filming and the songs are already there. probably with people on hand to teach them

sean penn does some okay blagging to the untrained eye in sweet and lowdown. he was actually coached by howard alden

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Johnny Noir wrote:
Cymbaline wrote:Sure, she's the hottest chic in hollywood, but can she PLAY that mustang for real????
in the movie she looks like she plays for real but timidly
Probably not a keen guitarist and concentrating really hard to mime something she's just learned while also looking cool, bit like most of the people in that Scott Pilgrim movie.
Pretty common for movies about musicians these days for the actors to have a few months of lessons to get the look down, unlike prior to the '90s or so where they'd either try to cast someone with musical ability or just go "eh fuck it" and have them wave their hands around in the vague vicinity of some strings. I remember when "That Thing You Do" came out there was a "making of" doc on HBO where they went on about how unusual it was they went to that much trouble, teaching the band to play and not using stand-ins/hand models. I guess an earlier example would be Ralph Macchio in Crossroads but there were some dicey moments there, even if he did put the work in.

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Johnny Noir wrote:
Cymbaline wrote:Sure, she's the hottest chic in hollywood, but can she PLAY that mustang for real????
in the movie she looks like she plays for real but timidly
Probably not a keen guitarist and concentrating really hard to mime something she's just learned while also looking cool, bit like most of the people in that Scott Pilgrim movie.
Pretty common for movies about musicians these days for the actors to have a few months of lessons to get the look down, unlike prior to the '90s or so where they'd either try to cast someone with musical ability or just go "eh fuck it" and have them wave their hands around in the vague vicinity of some strings. I remember when "That Thing You Do" came out there was a "making of" doc on HBO where they went on about how unusual it was they went to that much trouble, teaching the band to play and not using stand-ins/hand models. I guess an earlier example would be Ralph Macchio in Crossroads but there were some dicey moments there, even if he did put the work in.
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almost famous is another where the actors took some intensive training to get "camera ready", and i think it really pays off. billy crudup looks pretty accurate in his leads.

it was kind of disappointing to read about how rachel leigh cook hated having to learn guitar for josie and the pussycats. i never saw the film because i can't imagine it being anything other than horrible, but what a waste of a great opportunity for an actress to get the best of the best in terms of music lessons only to think it no fun and a waste of her time.
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George wrote:lol well for the purposes of learning it to bluff on film it would be pretty easy for an actress/actor to do. think about, a lot of spare time between filming and the songs are already there. probably with people on hand to teach them

sean penn does some okay blagging to the untrained eye in sweet and lowdown. he was actually coached by howard alden
I always thought that this is the absolutely worst example of an actor trying to play an instrument in a movie ever.
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Paradigmforcosmos wrote:
George wrote:lol well for the purposes of learning it to bluff on film it would be pretty easy for an actress/actor to do. think about, a lot of spare time between filming and the songs are already there. probably with people on hand to teach them

sean penn does some okay blagging to the untrained eye in sweet and lowdown. he was actually coached by howard alden
I always thought that this is the absolutely worst example of an actor trying to play an instrument in a movie ever.
Freaky Friday, most recent version. Worst example ever, Jamie Lee Curtis playing guitar.

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George wrote:lol as if someone couldn't learn to play bass in half an hour anyway
I bet you're joking.
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aen wrote:
George wrote:lol as if someone couldn't learn to play bass in half an hour anyway
I bet you're joking.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT

Bass, sure, it's easy to plunk out some shit. But to actually play it as an instrument is 100x harder than playing guitar. Your shitty guitar technique might sound fine, but throw that at a bass, and you sound like a real idiot. The dynamic range (even on an electric bass) is so much broader than a guitar, it demands a much higher level of control. Then, if you're playing with a band, there's the challenge of actually playing good notes. A guitar can flip flap around the time, bend shit notes into good ones, and generally wail because it's a very expressive, vocal instrument. But few thing sound worse in a rock band context than a guitarist shitting all over the bass.
this. PLUS you have to play dead on time to the drummer to be a proper bassist. Bassists that fail to do this sound real bad. You can feel it in your gut when a bassist is off. Can totally kill an otherwise good live experience.
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ZenJenga wrote:
aen wrote:
George wrote:lol as if someone couldn't learn to play bass in half an hour anyway
I bet you're joking.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT

Bass, sure, it's easy to plunk out some shit. But to actually play it as an instrument is 100x harder than playing guitar. Your shitty guitar technique might sound fine, but throw that at a bass, and you sound like a real idiot. The dynamic range (even on an electric bass) is so much broader than a guitar, it demands a much higher level of control. Then, if you're playing with a band, there's the challenge of actually playing good notes. A guitar can flip flap around the time, bend shit notes into good ones, and generally wail because it's a very expressive, vocal instrument. But few thing sound worse in a rock band context than a guitarist shitting all over the bass.
this. PLUS you have to play dead on time to the drummer to be a proper bassist. Bassists that fail to do this sound real bad. You can feel it in your gut when a bassist is off. Can totally kill an otherwise good live experience.
absolutely agree with this as well and was joking of course. the first time i played loudly to an audience with a huge and sexy amp was when i realised how hard and complex playing bass is. there is a lot to think about constantly with dynamics, timbre, volume, tone. really cool.

but i mean, for the purposes of playing the right root notes and "getting up on stage" bass is pretty easy.

its one of those "easy to pass, impossible to master" instruments.
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Paradigmforcosmos wrote:
George wrote:lol well for the purposes of learning it to bluff on film it would be pretty easy for an actress/actor to do. think about, a lot of spare time between filming and the songs are already there. probably with people on hand to teach them

sean penn does some okay blagging to the untrained eye in sweet and lowdown. he was actually coached by howard alden
I always thought that this is the absolutely worst example of an actor trying to play an instrument in a movie ever.
actually considering it's a complete noob imitating a guitarist playing as good as django reinhardt it's really very good.
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George wrote:
Paradigmforcosmos wrote:
George wrote:lol well for the purposes of learning it to bluff on film it would be pretty easy for an actress/actor to do. think about, a lot of spare time between filming and the songs are already there. probably with people on hand to teach them

sean penn does some okay blagging to the untrained eye in sweet and lowdown. he was actually coached by howard alden
I always thought that this is the absolutely worst example of an actor trying to play an instrument in a movie ever.
actually considering it's a complete noob imitating a guitarist playing as good as django reinhardt it's really very good.
I still think Sean Penn's guitar playing in that film is a complete travesty, some runs looks pretty decent but the chords are way out of sync with the music. I think it's strange that someone as high rolling as Woody Allen couldn't get some kind of guitar playing body double, it would totally increase the integrity of the film.

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some good points on bass playig have beeb brought up. personally when i was playing bass i would almost change the entire way i played to suit whatevr band i was in. while i was in the mistakens(thrash punk) i used a pick and did mostly straight up lines. here and there i woul accent parts, but its thrash punk, being in time with the drummer and tight is what makes it.
when playing with the raygun i was free to explore the fretboard more, but at the same time i had to be aware of the drummer who was a fuckin beast. throwing out off time jazz bits here and there. plus i used my fingers alot more, and strummed full chords for certain tunes.
i love it when people say. playing bass is easy, you just play the root note of the guitar chord. and my repsonse is usually, "OI! wanna fght!" or "if i tried that crap with any band i played bass for, or a bass player tried it on me, they, nor i would have been playing bass."