wallet friendly analog-esq delays

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:06 pm

so i've been using delay again recently, my ears now accustomed to the way a delay will sound through the front end of a driven amp.

the little belcat is ok, but when it's on it adds a fair bit of high end and doesn't get that crazy sounding. thinking darker sounding would work better.

was thinking maybe a memory boy/toy or a carbon copy as the modulated sounds would be quite nice.

what do you recommend peeps? i know thom has the anaecho mooer, so wouldn't mind what you think of it mate.

Concretebadger · Post by **Concretebadger** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:26 pm

The Carbon Copy is compact, well-made, has a nice-sounding modulation mode and is true analogue. To my ears though its self-oscillation is a bit too 'clean' and smooth for noise purposes - DM-2 clones like the Behringer are more grainy and unpredictable, although the delay time isn't as long.

The Memory Boy has chorus and vibrato though, so that might be better in terms of features, maybe?

Gabriel · Post by **Gabriel** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:29 pm

I loved the Memory Boy that I had and they can be had pretty cheap. Otherwise my only other experience is with the delays on the Zoom G3, which are pretty good too, but that pedal would probably be overkill.

Paradigmforcosmos · Post by **Paradigmforcosmos** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:31 pm

I have a memory boy that I really like.

chemistforhire · Post by **chemistforhire** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:26 pm

I have the carbon copy and love it. It can do nice dark delays for long ambient washes and nice subtle delays for always on playing. You can also get more headroom by powering it at 12 volts vs 9. You can get it for around $120 on amazon new or $100 used on guitar center website.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:32 pm

The Behringer VD400 is one of the best delays I've ever used. Can't go wrong. Would be cheap at twice the price.

chemistforhire · Post by **chemistforhire** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:16 pm

benecol wrote:The Behringer VD400 is one of the best delays I've ever used. Can't go wrong. Would be cheap at twice the price.

Do you experience a volume drop when use this pedal?

lorez · Post by **lorez** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:50 pm

benecol wrote:The Behringer VD400 is one of the best delays I've ever used. Can't go wrong. Would be cheap at twice the price.

For the price it's brilliant although its the only behringer pedal I had issues with build strength & breaking jack sockets.

I liked the memory toy but not as fun as other delays I've had.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:58 pm

benecol wrote:The Behringer VD400 is one of the best delays I've ever used. Can't go wrong. Would be cheap at twice the price.

I had mike' old one, but the delay time was just a little too short. I have to be able to do run like hell!

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:55 pm

chemistforhire wrote:
benecol wrote:The Behringer VD400 is one of the best delays I've ever used. Can't go wrong. Would be cheap at twice the price.
Do you experience a volume drop when use this pedal?

No, no I did not.

Rob, you should try a DE7 then. Even better. Not analogue, but you'd never know.

Concretebadger · Post by **Concretebadger** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:49 pm

If the VD400 produces any volume drop or tone suck, it's not noticeable to my ears. I'm sure it's not the best analogue delay out there (as far as build quality's concerned, it definitely isn't) but it's super-cheap for what it is.

I've not had the pleasure of trying out an Ibanez delay but I've heard a lot of positive things said about them.

Post by **Mike** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:58 pm

That Behringer Delay was really good. Definitely what I would have recommended too.

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:34 pm

I searched for the VD400 schematic - not surprising there isn't one obvious, but underneath this demo by some beardless youth

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was this comment:

IronBroadsword 6 months ago

To anybody considering buying this but doesn't like how crisp the repeats are - there's a trimpot inside you can adjust. Actually there's three, but the one on the far left is the one you want. Rotate it counter-clockwise to get longer delay time and to make the repeats far less pristine. You can bump the delay time by about 50% this way, and it makes the pedal VERY warm and yummy, just like you'd expect from an analog delay. $25 and 10 minutes well spent!

Post by **Mike** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:39 pm

I think it's a boss dm-2 clone

I imagine the trim he mentions is the clock

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:57 am

I think I can remember trying the trim pot adjustment. You get clock noise and very lo if repeats. I'm sure I've seen gak or somewhere doing a 2nd hand carbon copy for about Â£60

lorez · Post by **lorez** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:06 pm

benecol wrote:
chemistforhire wrote:
benecol wrote:The Behringer VD400 is one of the best delays I've ever used. Can't go wrong. Would be cheap at twice the price.
Do you experience a volume drop when use this pedal?
No, no I did not.

Rob, you should try a DE7 then. Even better. Not analogue, but you'd never know.

I have a de7 & it's lovely on the echo setting

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:53 pm

hmmm de7 might be an option, did think of behringer echo machine?

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:02 pm

Progrockabuse wrote:hmmm... did think of buying completely the wrong behringer

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:49 pm

benecol wrote:
Progrockabuse wrote:hmmm... did think of buying completely the wrong behringer

lol just thinking it'd be good as the delay time would be longer without messing with the trimpot

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:03 pm

Buy a DE7 you daft ha'peth - the VD400 is cracking, but if the delay time's not long enough, buy a DE7. Great clean delays, fantastic analogue sims, long delay times, oscillation, you name it. If you don't like it (which isn't going to happen anyhow) you'll flog it on no worries.