Yea the demand for short scale guitars with humbuckers was a product of the grunge music scene. Not just because that's what guitar players wanted. They wanted the grunge guitar look, the short scale and the humbuckers... thus the guitars were influenced by grunge. Now though with the Toronado GT, and the Cyclone II's with jag pickups, I'd say they're moving away from the grunge appeal.
Tom Delonge did not "switch back to gibsons". He always played a Fender except for a very very brief period after Dude Ranch came out where he played a Les Paul. He only switched to Gibson because they probably offered him more money. Although I can't imagine that he gets much money off of the Gibson signature model because I don't think anyone is willing to spend $2400 on it! Don't try to argue anything about Blink with me, I used to be a blink fanatic.[/quote]
see you just opened with what i had said.
but you cannot expect an ifluence no longer relevant with pop culture,
it was twelve years ago, and no longer weilds marganal profit for fender.
as for the tom delonge thing.
it can be chronicalled as this:
-early begginings= crappy acoustic (found in trash, by friends father [trashman])
-highschool (flyswatter)=red barracuda? strat copy
-buddha=epiphone les paul & two strat copies
-chesire cat= white fender mim strat for tours (later covered in stickers)
-dude ranch= maroon gibson les paul (present from owner of billabong)
-enema of the state= 2 fender custom shops (torino red and surf green)
(later extended to daphne blue, ice blue, yellow, carmel metallic)
-T.O.Y.P.A.J.= numerous fender T.D.S.'s, gibson es-335, 3 acoustics
-untitled=es-335 (both cherry [invader]and signature[dirty fingers])
rickenbacker, T.D.S style customs, les paul (white) and so on...
i love blink-182, and probably know more than you about there equipment.
too jagermeister, the cyclone (ss) is much closer to a duo-sonic than a "grunge" based mustang.
what is your favorite post grunge guitar?
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So Kurt Cobain is no longer an influence in pop culture? Is that why there's still tons of books, magazines, documentaries, tv shows, and movies being made about him? Is that why Fender japan still makes the jag-stang, and Kurt Cobain model mustangs and jaguars? You're an idiot if you're going to keep arguing that point.
As for the Tom Delonge thing, Dude ranch was not recorded with his Les Paul, he only used that in the josie video and on tour, He played that white strat with the Dimarzio X2N in the bridge for the recording and touring at first. He also used that on cheshire cat, and I'm pretty sure Buddha was the white strat or his red strat, maybe both. I watched a show a while ago where he was talking about his first guitar and his friend that gave it to him was talking about how he found it in the dump and gave it to him, and they showed old video of Tom playing the red strat, so I thought that was his first guitar. The earliest pictures and photos that I have seen of Blink from shows, or practices or anything all have Tom playing the white strat, and that's even pre-flyswatter demo. I never saw him play a torino red or caramel metallic signature strat. He had an inca silver one though, you might be confusing that with something else. He also had white, black and brown ones with competition stripes on them that he used with Boxcar racer and on tour with blink for a while.
Now that I've embarrassed myself on this board by showing how much of a blink fan I am, I shall shut up.
As for the Tom Delonge thing, Dude ranch was not recorded with his Les Paul, he only used that in the josie video and on tour, He played that white strat with the Dimarzio X2N in the bridge for the recording and touring at first. He also used that on cheshire cat, and I'm pretty sure Buddha was the white strat or his red strat, maybe both. I watched a show a while ago where he was talking about his first guitar and his friend that gave it to him was talking about how he found it in the dump and gave it to him, and they showed old video of Tom playing the red strat, so I thought that was his first guitar. The earliest pictures and photos that I have seen of Blink from shows, or practices or anything all have Tom playing the white strat, and that's even pre-flyswatter demo. I never saw him play a torino red or caramel metallic signature strat. He had an inca silver one though, you might be confusing that with something else. He also had white, black and brown ones with competition stripes on them that he used with Boxcar racer and on tour with blink for a while.
Now that I've embarrassed myself on this board by showing how much of a blink fan I am, I shall shut up.
5 years ago my friends and i got a rental house.I had never seen the house and was the last to move my stuff in so everyone took a room before me.
When i got there to move in my room was painted purple and my door had "cosmo cute guy club" stickers all over it.Most of wich were blink 182
stickers everywhere.That really sucked.Funny,but sucked.
When i got there to move in my room was painted purple and my door had "cosmo cute guy club" stickers all over it.Most of wich were blink 182
stickers everywhere.That really sucked.Funny,but sucked.
ever see him play adam's song?
for the race around your anus and other tours he played an orange/red looking maple necked strat.
afterwards it was a yellow strat with a similar neck.
he also used the orange strat for the shows they played for the u.s. navy and the nimitz.
i did not say kurt cobain doesn't have a current impact on pop culture, i said grunge has lost it's impact.
ever notice how all the books and movies about him are all written and directed by generation-x?
the show were tom talks about his friend and his friends dad (garbage man) who gave him the guitar, an acoustic.
and on much-on-demand, he stated that his first guitar was a 10 dollar acoustic, that his freinds dad gave to his son to give to tom, which he sold for a 20 dollar guitar.
also, the white one(3) had no stripe, the black one's(5) were not T.D.S routings, just HSS. the brown one(2) was not a tom delonge, it was just another custom shop.
he also had an ice blue squier bullet special, with a '70s strat neck, new p'gaurd and special wound invader. used on pepsi smash, which was ironically smashed.
i'm proud of my blink knoledge.
for the race around your anus and other tours he played an orange/red looking maple necked strat.
afterwards it was a yellow strat with a similar neck.
he also used the orange strat for the shows they played for the u.s. navy and the nimitz.
i did not say kurt cobain doesn't have a current impact on pop culture, i said grunge has lost it's impact.
ever notice how all the books and movies about him are all written and directed by generation-x?
the show were tom talks about his friend and his friends dad (garbage man) who gave him the guitar, an acoustic.
and on much-on-demand, he stated that his first guitar was a 10 dollar acoustic, that his freinds dad gave to his son to give to tom, which he sold for a 20 dollar guitar.
also, the white one(3) had no stripe, the black one's(5) were not T.D.S routings, just HSS. the brown one(2) was not a tom delonge, it was just another custom shop.
he also had an ice blue squier bullet special, with a '70s strat neck, new p'gaurd and special wound invader. used on pepsi smash, which was ironically smashed.
i'm proud of my blink knoledge.
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I'm not saying I'm embarrassed to be a Blink fan, I love blink. I'm just saying that on this board a lot of people look down on Blink fans.b-spot wrote:ever see him play adam's song?
for the race around your anus and other tours he played an orange/red looking maple necked strat.
afterwards it was a yellow strat with a similar neck.
he also used the orange strat for the shows they played for the u.s. navy and the nimitz.
i did not say kurt cobain doesn't have a current impact on pop culture, i said grunge has lost it's impact.
ever notice how all the books and movies about him are all written and directed by generation-x?
the show were tom talks about his friend and his friends dad (garbage man) who gave him the guitar, an acoustic.
and on much-on-demand, he stated that his first guitar was a 10 dollar acoustic, that his freinds dad gave to his son to give to tom, which he sold for a 20 dollar guitar.
also, the white one(3) had no stripe, the black one's(5) were not T.D.S routings, just HSS. the brown one(2) was not a tom delonge, it was just another custom shop.
he also had an ice blue squier bullet special, with a '70s strat neck, new p'gaurd and special wound invader. used on pepsi smash, which was ironically smashed.
i'm proud of my blink knoledge.
You might very well know more than me about Tom's guitars. The show I'm talking about was called "the road home" or something, and all his friend said was that he found it in the dump and gave it to tom, and they showed him playing the red strat. You might be thinking of a different show that I didn't see. He smashed a lot of white squier tom delonge strats (I think they were squiers) on the tour with NFG after TOYPAJ was released. He smashed one at every show I think.
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i was watching this documentary on green day the other night and in it billie joe said they basically took on that tour with blink to kick the shit out of them, because blink had been talking shit. and i know i wasn't the only one who left after green day played on that tour.
paid forty bucks to see just green day. and proud of it.
paid forty bucks to see just green day. and proud of it.
I was at the raleigh show on that tour, and I stayed for Blink. It was the 4th time that I had seen them and it was definitely the worst. They weren't bad, but they just weren't as good as they were the other 3 times that I had seen them, also Green Day kicked ass right before Blink came out so it was hard for them to top that.
That was when I still liked Green Day, before American Idiot. I really don't like that album at all, and apparently that's pretty much all they play at their shows now. I thought they did a really good mix of everything at that show, they played everything I wanted to hear from Dookie, and then the singles and a few other good ones from the rest of the cd's. When they did the thing where they call people out of the audience to come up and play, I was right behind the kid that went up to play guitar, so I was that close to being up there with Green Day and having Billie Joe give me a free strat! The girl that went up to play bass was a couple people over from me too so I was pretty close to getting up there to play bass with them too! That would have been cool as hell.
I thought it was cool that Billie Joe from green day was giving away a guitar to a kid in the audience at every show. It was definitely much cooler than what Tom from Blink was doing and smashing one at each show.
That was when I still liked Green Day, before American Idiot. I really don't like that album at all, and apparently that's pretty much all they play at their shows now. I thought they did a really good mix of everything at that show, they played everything I wanted to hear from Dookie, and then the singles and a few other good ones from the rest of the cd's. When they did the thing where they call people out of the audience to come up and play, I was right behind the kid that went up to play guitar, so I was that close to being up there with Green Day and having Billie Joe give me a free strat! The girl that went up to play bass was a couple people over from me too so I was pretty close to getting up there to play bass with them too! That would have been cool as hell.
I thought it was cool that Billie Joe from green day was giving away a guitar to a kid in the audience at every show. It was definitely much cooler than what Tom from Blink was doing and smashing one at each show.
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when my wife and jason's wife bought us tickets for their last show, they played a realllly healthy mix of songs. there was a lot of AI, but you gotta remember, they've had like seven hits off of it...so it makes sense to play it. but they still did:Billy3000 wrote:I was at the raleigh show on that tour, and I stayed for Blink. It was the 4th time that I had seen them and it was definitely the worst. They weren't bad, but they just weren't as good as they were the other 3 times that I had seen them, also Green Day kicked ass right before Blink came out so it was hard for them to top that.
That was when I still liked Green Day, before American Idiot. I really don't like that album at all, and apparently that's pretty much all they play at their shows now. I thought they did a really good mix of everything at that show, they played everything I wanted to hear from Dookie, and then the singles and a few other good ones from the rest of the cd's. When they did the thing where they call people out of the audience to come up and play, I was right behind the kid that went up to play guitar, so I was that close to being up there with Green Day and having Billie Joe give me a free strat! The girl that went up to play bass was a couple people over from me too so I was pretty close to getting up there to play bass with them too! That would have been cool as hell.
-king for a day (with a fucking amazing "Shout!" rendition tagged onto the end of it)
-a fucking stellar version of "we will rock you"
-longview
-She
-brain stew
-minority
and many many more not on AI.