Need some squier jazzy input

matte30is · Post by **matte30is** » Fri May 10, 2013 11:54 pm

I looked at these in the local music store the other day. They look really legit. I didnt get to play one because I had my kids with me and yada yada.

Are these junk? I mean how does it compare to a mij jazzy? I really want one but if its junk Ill just buy a used jazzy. I had a first issue squier jagmaster that I thought was a great guitar and miss the offset world. If the body and neck are decent I can always swap out the electronics later right?

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Sat May 11, 2013 12:30 am

its got 7.25 fretboard radius.

its there for better than 75% of every fender made now days.

mkt3000 · Post by **mkt3000** » Sat May 11, 2013 12:57 am

It's good. Not good for the price - just good. Ignore the brand on the headstock, this is a Fender in all but name.

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Sat May 11, 2013 1:51 am

they're awesome. I love mine and play it more than my fender jag these days.

markarkark · Post by **markarkark** » Sun May 12, 2013 4:20 pm

robroe wrote:its got 7.25 fretboard radius.

its there for better than all other better than 75% of every fender made now days.

pretty sure it's 9.5" radius

George · Post by **George** » Sun May 12, 2013 4:30 pm

yeah it's 9.5". i find the flatter radius ideal but the squier mustang i got has a really clubby neck which i find disagreeable

overall i find it to be not as good as my classic vibes, but still worth considering if you're looking at jazzy, jags and mustangs. the price is very persuasive

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Sun May 12, 2013 4:44 pm

the bridge is junk and there's no trem lock, but other than that, they're very good.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Sun May 12, 2013 4:45 pm

it is 9.5 ?

fuck it then. set it on fire. all of em

blane · Post by **blane** » Sun May 12, 2013 8:38 pm

I played one not too long ago at my local music store. The high e string wouldn't stay on the bridge saddle for shit (i suppose that's a common complaint even with the fender versions.)
When playing there was a buzz sound which seemed to come from the bridge area.

I don't like the 9.5'' radius necks personally so that was a turn off for me.

All in all I wanted to love it (sonic blue jazzmaster!!!), but I felt like it needed too much work (new bridge, new neck) to make it a guitar i'd be happy with.

LizardKing · Post by **LizardKing** » Mon May 13, 2013 2:45 pm

blane wrote:I played one not too long ago at my local music store. The high e string wouldn't stay on the bridge saddle for shit (i suppose that's a common complaint even with the fender versions.)
When playing there was a buzz sound which seemed to come from the bridge area.

I don't like the 9.5'' radius necks personally so that was a turn off for me.

All in all I wanted to love it (sonic blue jazzmaster!!!), but I felt like it needed too much work (new bridge, new neck) to make it a guitar i'd be happy with.

You need to set it up properly as a JM/Jag needs heavier strings and preferably
flat wound ones.
The stock bridge can be made to work but if you need/want typical modern strings then break out the file
and make some grooves in the saddles.

The f'board radius is the modern 9.5", if you need a 7.25" then you are out of luck with
MOST new guitars or willing to pay big $$ to get the 7.25" radius.

Overall I find the VM Squiers to be pretty decent guitars and like them a lot.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Mon May 13, 2013 3:06 pm

LizardKing wrote:The stock bridge can be made to work but if you need/want typical modern strings then break out the file
and make some grooves in the saddles.

the problem with these briddges is the grub screws- i set mine up, and when i went back to it a few days later the height adjustment screws on the posts had lowered themselves under the pressure of the strings until the bridge was sitting flat against the guard.

LizardKing · Post by **LizardKing** » Mon May 13, 2013 3:19 pm

stewart wrote:
LizardKing wrote:The stock bridge can be made to work but if you need/want typical modern strings then break out the file
and make some grooves in the saddles.
the problem with these briddges is the grub screws- i set mine up, and when i went back to it a few days later the height adjustment screws on the posts had lowered themselves under the pressure of the strings until the bridge was sitting flat against the guard.

Easy enough to fix with vaseline/locktite/nail polish/etc.

BUT
I believe the real reason this is a problem is that the threads are way TOO LOOSE!
I find this is true of most things made these days and believe it is
due to a combination of "don't give a damn" and "save money with loose tolerance" crap.
Original Fender stuff from back in the days was threaded properly and didn't come
unscrewed through use.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Mon May 13, 2013 3:37 pm

exactly, my vintage jag bridge is perfectly useable. but rather than fuck about with PTFE tape on the squier i'd rather just buy a bridge that works.

Freddy V-C · Post by **Freddy V-C** » Mon May 13, 2013 3:44 pm

I had a lot of problems with the VM Jaguar bridge, but after a couple of months I just but a TOM on instead. Since then it's been great.

So basically:

- Buy the Jazzmaster
- Put a tune-o-matic bridge on it
- ???
- Profit

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Mon May 13, 2013 3:52 pm

Staytrem bridges all the way.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon May 13, 2013 4:00 pm

Freddy V-C wrote:I had a lot of problems with the VM Jaguar bridge, but after a couple of months I just but a TOM on instead. Since then it's been great.

i wonder why? ohh thats right! because the guitar and the stock bridge was designed for a 7.25 fretboard

stupid fender

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Mon May 13, 2013 4:02 pm

robroe wrote:the guitar and the stock bridge was designed for a 7.25 fretboard

In what way(s)?

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon May 13, 2013 4:07 pm

TOM's are designed for Gibsons which have a flat 12" fretboard. Fender guitar's on the other hand for the last 50 years have had a round 7.25 fretboard. it isn't until very recently that fender is putting this 9.5 flatter fretboard on just about everything they make.

all these bridges that were designed 40 or 50 years ago were made for guitars with round fretboards, not this flat shit now days.

if i wanted a guitar with a flat fretboard i would play gibsons. all fender is doing is pissing me (and lots of other people that have been playing fenders for 50 years) off.

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Mon May 13, 2013 4:18 pm

robroe wrote:TOM's are designed for Gibsons which have a flat 12" fretboard. Fender guitar's on the other hand for the last 50 years have had a round 7.25 fretboard. it isn't until very recently that fender is putting this 9.5 flatter fretboard on just about everything they make.

all these bridges that were designed 40 or 50 years ago were made for guitars with round fretboards, not this flat shit now days.

if i wanted a guitar with a flat fretboard i would play gibsons. all fender is doing is pissing me (and lots of other people that have been playing fenders for 50 years) off.

I understand what a fretboard radius means and that Fenders have traditionally been 7.25-inch and Gibsons flatter.

I just don't understand how you can say that the rest of the Jazzmaster/Jaguar was specifically designed for the rounder radius...?

George · Post by **George** » Mon May 13, 2013 4:51 pm

bridges are all adjustable now on the squier line with height adjustment for each saddle.

trouble is the bridges aren't that great and the parts, particularly the grubs, come loose. the only fly in the ointment.

matching bridge radius exactly doesn't suit how i like guitars setup anyway. individual adjustment is a pretty big priority