MF Stupid Deal - World's Ugliest Jag for $300, and now $250

George · Post by **George** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:56 pm

they're right, that is a stupid deal

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:40 pm

presumably nobody's buying them.

taylornutt · Post by **taylornutt** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:43 pm

The Strat jack kinda ruins the overall look. It's like the guitar can't decide if it's a Jaguar or a Toronado or a Strat.

I think they were going for this vibe but stopped short. They should have just reissued these Toronados.

I want this one.

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:54 pm

the neck is decent enough. i guess for three hundered you could part out the body and parts, keep the neck and you may get 200 or so for the body and hardware

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:59 pm

I had a go with one and at the side of the Marauder it was awful. The sound was the biggest disappointment, P90's/mahogany usually works well together, even on budget guitars but it didn't with this Jaguar. Didn't feel too good to play either.

Peter Bond · Post by **Peter Bond** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:29 pm

They are ugly as sin like. That Jack placement just looks terrible.

AaronGuitarDude · Post by **AaronGuitarDude** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:17 am

unless it is 12" radius, i'd buy it

Post by **dots** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:17 am

taylornutt wrote:The Strat jack kinda ruins the overall look. It's like the guitar can't decide if it's a Jaguar or a Toronado or a Strat.

I think they were going for this vibe but stopped short. They should have just reissued these Toronados.

I want this one.

Agreed.

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:24 am

EHHHHHHHH... NO. 10 years ago, maybe but given the existence of the VM offsets... LOLNO!

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:10 am

the bridge on those toronados are really nice looking, i thought they had the standard TOM for the u.s. versions(thats what those are right?)

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:14 am

It's only the strat jack that fails the looks for me, otherwise I like it. I trust Fran's opinion on playbility though so do not want

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:17 am

i saw one of those used jags on GC website for about 249.99 and thought about getting it for the neck alone, if i remember right it was a burst body. i think with a guard(to cover up the strat jack) and a bigsby or some such trem upgrade they could be usable, but i have never had first hand interaction with one. i mean, i have seen one first hand in a store, but nothing about it was appealing enough for me to want to try it out.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:27 pm

Dave wrote:I trust Fran's opinion on playbility though so do not want

The one I tried may have been a duffer and it wasn't exactly set up well to be fair, but it was truly awful.

61fury · Post by **61fury** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:37 pm

This from a thread on TDPRI. The guy put 2 mini pots in the Strat Jack hole. No other major mods. Maybe a blank Jag control plate would do it here. And a pickguard, maybe wouldn't be so bad

Lumpy Waters · Post by **Lumpy Waters** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:32 pm

This guitar is kind of like Fender's response to a Gibson SG Special. I thought about buying one of these and putting a Bigsby vibrato on it. I think it would be pretty cool with a Bigsby. Maybe they'd sell better if Fender put a Bigsby on them. I never pulled the trigger on it because I already have a cherry Gibson SG with a Bigsby.

Fakir Mustache · Post by **Fakir Mustache** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:41 pm

You could make a little scratchplate, maybe not exactly like the one on the Toronado but something like that.

The Strat jack plate hate is just stupid. I can understand someone not liking Strat pickups, Strat wiring, tailpiece, etc., but the jack plate? It's way better than the one on the Toronado because it doesn't push towards the floor when you are sitting on the floor. Or just get a black one if you don't like that it's chrome.

You guys hate it so much, here is what your version of hell looks like:

Concretebadger · Post by **Concretebadger** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:52 pm

Yeah, it's a shame about the strat jack plate and lack of pickguard...those are the two things that make it look 'off' to me.

Otherwise, I wouldn't be surprised if it sounds and feels fine to play in comparison with the price. I wonder how hard it would actually be to fit a pickguard and relocate the jack?

mkt3000 · Post by **mkt3000** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:39 pm

It's back!

Casual_Reader · Post by **Casual_Reader** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:19 pm

robert(original) wrote:the bridge on those toronados are really nice looking, i thought they had the standard TOM for the u.s. versions(thats what those are right?)

http://angela.com/fenderbridgetech-toni ... sonic.aspx

they don't hold up, though. google it for the complaints.