Production likes and dislikes

James · Post by **James** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:01 pm

List some things you like in terms of recording/mixing/whatever, and some you cant stand.

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James · Post by **James** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:07 pm

Like
- Big Dynamics. Little things being too loud when it sounds right is great. Like that first Johnny Greenwood bit in "Creep". apprently on the first take he did it like that to try and fuck up the song, but they liked it so much he had to keep trying til he did it right for the main recording.
- Stuff you cant really pick out, but if you mute the track disappears, or just little subtle noises that make a track interesting. The flmaing lips did loads of that stuff on "transmissions from the satellite heart" and i still hear new things on that record
- Open, natural sounds that still sound close and professional. Albini ftw.

Dislike
- I absolutely hate vocoders, a uni mate tried several times to get me to appreciate them used well, like on that Imogen Heap record, but i can still conjour up the desire to kill some cute things when i hear one
- Over compression.
- Snare drums that sound identical on every hit. not really a problem in rock but man is it annoying in commerical hip hop/rnb
- DI acoustic guitar sounds. Get a proper pickup in that steez or mic it up.

Post by **Doog** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:11 pm

Pretty much the same, I guess. I love little background noises and like that stuff on songs. There's a break in Steven's Last Night In Town by Ben Folds 5 where the phone goes off right after this big climax and they all start laughing, it's great.

Post by **Mike** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:16 pm

"Look, man, I got your hidden track right here, pal! Right here! Listen! Ben Folds is a fuckin' asshole!"

JamesSmann · Post by **JamesSmann** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:17 pm

Doog wrote:Pretty much the same, I guess. I love little background noises and like that stuff on songs. There's a break in Steven's Last Night In Town by Ben Folds 5 where the phone goes off right after this big climax and they all start laughing, it's great.

yeah! i fuckin' love that. or at the end of songs when you can hear the studio control booth activities because somebody farted or they were making fun of the dude singing or whatever

bf5 had a few moments like that on whatever and ever amen.

Post by **Doog** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:19 pm

Yeah, they were great like that. Heard the RATM spoof on Naked Baby Photos? It's just them dicking about in the studio when they were getting levels, it's well funny.

JamesSmann · Post by **JamesSmann** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:20 pm

Doog wrote:Yeah, they were great like that. Heard the RATM spoof on Naked Baby Photos? It's just them dicking about in the studio when they were getting levels, it's well funny.

yeah, that's good times too!

i love moments like that on records...when the artists stop taking themselves so fucking seriously and just dick around a bit...i wish we'd have put some of us dicking around on our album(s)

SpectralJulian · Post by **SpectralJulian** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:38 pm

Like
- "the band in your room sound"
- the wall of sound
- guitars mixed in so that they are really volatile and they really roar

Dislike
- anything recorded direct
- verbless vocals
- vocals with to big an aspect ratio on compression

Spitfire · Post by **Spitfire** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:17 am

Like

3 mic drum sounds in a live room
Tape saturation
Live recording setups
Stark in-your-face production (much of Martin Hannett's work for example)
Real plate reverb
Tape echo and tape reverse reverb
Improvised percussion

Dislike

Lazy uses of technology (Autotune and vocalign for example)
Over corrected, multi-layered soulless vocals
Recordings that don't breath

aen · Post by **aen** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:46 pm

LIkes

Drastic Pans
Hard room ambience
noise layers
dry vocals
violently compressed/overdriven drums

Dislikes

created reverb (menaing anything that the room did not create)
repeated sounds on the albumn, especially drums and guitars
lack of low end (Mr. Albini, I'm talking to you...)

iCEByTes · Post by **iCEByTes** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:35 pm

Likes :
Clean Output
Scrap my picks Hahahaha
Killer drum
Good organization
Skilled Tech understaind what i talk
Decent cables
Decent Natural Reverb at studio
Good Studio equipament
Concentration
Confortable local
Sound wall doing Nuclear distruction at Studio
use and abuse Microphone positions
use Acustics
use Acustic intrument
use Reverse records
experiments using equipament
experiments over sound
Nice use Eq,compression,flanger etc.

dislikes:
Eletronic drum sets
Noise at equipments gates
Do Direct capture
stupid mixes
Junk techs
exessive polish at record , sounds artificial,non-natural
people talk me what i know do

James · Post by **James** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:57 pm

If I was still at uni, I'd have that printed and stuck up in every studio they had.

Post by **Doog** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:01 pm

*falls off chair*

aen · Post by **aen** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:09 pm

bob wrote:If I was still at uni, I'd have that printed and stuck up in every studio they had.

Dude, that's going on every folder i have when i go to IPR.

James · Post by **James** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:31 pm

whats IPR?

Post by **Mike** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:23 pm

iCEByTes wrote:Scrap my picks Hahahaha
Confortable local
Sound wall doing Nuclear distruction at Studio
experiments over sound
Noise at equipments gates
Do Direct capture

That's my recording technique motherfucker.

GET CONFORTABLE with your vocals baby

iCEByTes · Post by **iCEByTes** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:27 pm

Mike wrote:
iCEByTes wrote:Scrap my picks Hahahaha
Confortable local
Sound wall doing Nuclear distruction at Studio
experiments over sound
Noise at equipments gates
Do Direct capture
That's my recording technique motherfucker.

GET CONFORTABLE with your vocals baby

- low that shit or gonna screw my distortion
- Be careful ... nooooo screwed my riff -_-
- too bassy .... darn darn

hahahhaha thats topic remember a part on movie about Hendrix
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0260949/

hendrix got bad tech started do shit over hendrix record's

Post by **Mike** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:31 pm

aen · Post by **aen** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:35 am

bob wrote:whats IPR?

The Institute of Produciton and Recording

100% of the first graduating class ('02 I beleive) currently working in their field.

Post by **Mike** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:17 am

And what are they doing in this field? Litter-picking?