So, kinda done got a VM jaguar.......

lorez · Post by **lorez** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:46 pm

looks nice Rob

Post by **Mike** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:49 pm

Aye - enjoy it! Welcome to the Club

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:51 pm

so i have 11's on and they feel 10 times better. think it had 9's on when i tried it instore. just intonating and setting up the bridge. seems quite nice already, though just a little more height. neck pickup is fucking lush as is both. still getting to grips with the switches. can see me doing a johnny marr and going for a 3 way switch.

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:01 pm

Looks ace

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:10 pm

Nice one Rob, looks great.

stewart · Post by **stewart** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:37 pm

Mike wrote:
stewart wrote:what pickups did you go for?
Antiquity IIs courtesy of Vincel

damn, you got him living under your stairs or summat?

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:25 pm

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:53 pm

Nice Rob

I think I'd go for sunburst as well, like my first Jag, miss that guitar.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:12 pm

It's so nice to play, only stopped to have me tea then carried on. Neck feels very comfy, very speedy. So far I've not popped any strings out the saddles, though wouldn't mind a little shopping list of nice upgrades.

And now back to playing love is the law!

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:16 pm

Progrockabuse wrote:So far I've not popped any strings out the saddles, though wouldn't mind a little shopping list of nice upgrades.

If they start popping out, put a neck shim in - cranking the bridge up a touch to match the shim helps things, plus makes for a nice neck angle.

Rather than opt for an (ugly as fuck, btw) tele/Marr switch, just reverse the direction of the switches (up for off, rather than up for on) - that way, if you do something clumsy, you'll only turn a pickup on rather than off.

Post by **Mike** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:26 am

If the bridge gives you pain get a Staytrem bridge for Â£65 in 9.5" radius and never look back.

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:49 am

So, last night I took it to band practice with my usually setup.

The resultant sound was a little mixed. The bridge pickup is very nasal sounding, very viscous sounding. The neck pickup was well nice.

Not sure on the rhythm circuit yet, sounds a little muffled when volume rolled back. The neck is so comfy, though thinking 12's are needed.

The band thought that whilst it's nice, it's not as versatile as my tele/strat.

Thoughts?

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:53 am

Progrockabuse wrote:Thoughts?

Play punk instead instead of prog

Progrockabuse · Post by **Progrockabuse** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:07 am

We did play punk, well toy dolls' Nellie the elephant.

I wish we played prog, though have jammed breathe before.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:37 am

Progrockabuse wrote:The band thought that whilst it's nice, it's not as versatile as my tele/strat.

Thoughts?

Fuck what they think. It's your band, not theirs. Although in seriousness, how a tele is more versatile is beyond meâ€¦

As to all your other woes, ride that tone control yo. And the rhythm circuit controls do interact in an odd way - I set mine for smooth jazz/octave fuzz goosing and leave it well alone.

Fakir Mustache · Post by **Fakir Mustache** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:32 am

Nellie the Elephant is quite progressive for punk.

gusman2x · Post by **gusman2x** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:47 am

Yeah, the tone control will be needed for using the bridge to take the edge off.

I've only used mine once at practice, and I didn't really get to a happy point with it, but I hadn't eq'd anything. Definitely rolling the tone back a quarter of a turn makes a big difference.

George · Post by **George** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:49 am

yeah not a fan of playing jaguars really. i love the neck tones but the bridge pickup position, plinky bridge and 1 meg pots end up producing a decidedly shrill and crispy tone with no bottom end. i often like the sound other players get, and they are perfect for some players and styles, but not i

i would say from my experience of playing strats, teles and jags, jags are the least versatile and reliable, and take the most fiddling to get right, where is the other two are pretty much plug n play

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:15 pm

Progrockabuse wrote:The band thought that whilst it's nice, it's not as versatile as my tele/strat.

Thoughts?

Bridge posish Lil '59 or JB Jr.
Sounds like a cop out to go slapping buckers in the thing and you'll lose a claw, but the JB Jr single-handedly transformed my CIJ Jag into my most versatile guitar and the 1megs leave the dual pickup sound Jaggy as fuck. Also suggesting Lil '59 purely for no-route alternative; neither have the strat pickup v-shaped baseplate like hot rails.

Re: bridge/string gauge issues - consider buzzstop. Will also increase guitar's versatility playability-wise though you will lose a bit of the characteristic pingity-clang.

These are polarizing mods and I'm sure some will feel I've lost the plot a bit but my Jag is more versatile than my Strats or Teles and still sounds like a Jag. And has a stock CIJ neck pickup.
I'm not a full-time buzzstop convert but it certainly helped me get back into using the Jag after returning from a TOM to a Mustang bridge. It doesn't rob as much Jaggyness as the TOM did and leads/bends feel studier (using 10-52s or 11-48s).

Fran wrote:I think I'd go for sunburst as well, like my first Jag, miss that guitar.

To this day that was the nicest looking burst I ever saw on a Jag (and I prefer Jags in sunburst). If memory serves there wasn't much red in it, right?

BearBoy · Post by **BearBoy** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:37 pm

Congrats Rob. I know some people think sunburst is a tad boring but I always thinks it suits a Jag perfectly.

George wrote:i would say from my experience of playing strats, teles and jags, jags are the least versatile and reliable, and take the most fiddling to get right, where is the other two are pretty much plug n play

I think you've got a point about the "plug n play" aspect (although in 20+ years of playing Jags I haven't had half the issues the internet would have you believe are endemic in them) but I have always found them one of the more versatile guitars around, certainly more so than a Tele (not that there is anything wrong with Teles).