Making Pre-amp on Cable

iCEByTes · Post by **iCEByTes** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:18 am

http://www.till.com/articles/PreampCable/

amazing

very little

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:31 am

koolz

Post by **Doog** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:56 am

Reminds me of EBS amps; if you use a specific guitar lead that they make, the amp can power their pedals through the output jack, pretty neat.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:12 am

Doog wrote:Reminds me of EBS amps; if you use a specific guitar lead that they make, the amp can power their pedals through the output jack, pretty neat.

This is awesome. I want this. I bet you're fucked if the pedals are different polarity though (which obviously they won't do with their own pedals).

Have you guys heard about the Nano Clone and Nano Muff? They can't be daisy chained powered with other pedals as they're positive ground and ground out the power supply through the TRS jack connections with the other pedals. You have to use an individual Wall Wart for them or battery power them.

WEAK

ElCapitan · Post by **ElCapitan** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:45 am

dude that sucks. I thought EHX got it right this time.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:48 pm

Mike wrote:
Doog wrote:Reminds me of EBS amps; if you use a specific guitar lead that they make, the amp can power their pedals through the output jack, pretty neat.
This is awesome. I want this. I bet you're fucked if the pedals are different polarity though (which obviously they won't do with their own pedals).

Have you guys heard about the Nano Clone and Nano Muff? They can't be daisy chained powered with other pedals as they're positive ground and ground out the power supply through the TRS jack connections with the other pedals. You have to use an individual Wall Wart for them or battery power them.

WEAK

Damn. It is pretty stupid in this day and age to make a positive ground pedal.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:52 pm

PenPen wrote:
Mike wrote:
Doog wrote:Reminds me of EBS amps; if you use a specific guitar lead that they make, the amp can power their pedals through the output jack, pretty neat.
This is awesome. I want this. I bet you're fucked if the pedals are different polarity though (which obviously they won't do with their own pedals).

Have you guys heard about the Nano Clone and Nano Muff? They can't be daisy chained powered with other pedals as they're positive ground and ground out the power supply through the TRS jack connections with the other pedals. You have to use an individual Wall Wart for them or battery power them.

WEAK

Damn. It is pretty stupid in this day and age to make a positive ground pedal.

It's quite funny - they're coming off all "It's not a flaw it's a design decision!" on the HCFX forum. As far as I can remember, only the FuzzFace is +ve ground and that's so you can use PNPs...

Post by **Doog** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:52 pm

Couldn't you just switch around the wires to the power jack inside the pedal?

I'm not sure exactly what you mean..

Post by **Mike** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:00 pm

Doog wrote:Couldn't you just switch around the wires to the power jack inside the pedal? I'm not sure exactly what you mean..

No, unfortunately that makes the Nano Clone... not work. It's not supply polarity that's the problem, the problem is that positive ground is when the positive (live) terminal is connected to the chassis, it is the ground point rather than zero volts. It makes it incompatible with other pedals on the same power supply as it grounds out the power.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:47 pm

Mike wrote:
PenPen wrote:
Mike wrote: This is awesome. I want this. I bet you're fucked if the pedals are different polarity though (which obviously they won't do with their own pedals).

Have you guys heard about the Nano Clone and Nano Muff? They can't be daisy chained powered with other pedals as they're positive ground and ground out the power supply through the TRS jack connections with the other pedals. You have to use an individual Wall Wart for them or battery power them.

WEAK

Damn. It is pretty stupid in this day and age to make a positive ground pedal.

It's quite funny - they're coming off all "It's not a flaw it's a design decision!" on the HCFX forum. As far as I can remember, only the FuzzFace is +ve ground and that's so you can use PNPs...

Pft. They can say whatever they want. It it completely possible to use neg ground with PNP transistors also, you just have to design it right. I honestly cannot fathom a true technical reason to "decide" on positive ground.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:54 pm

Deez nuts to that shit. I had a Fuzz Face that ran fine in a daisy chain.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:41 pm

theshadowofseattle wrote:Deez nuts to that shit. I had a Fuzz Face that ran fine in a daisy chain.

It won't have been an original FF design then.

It's a crappy excuse.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:18 pm

It was a Dunlop reissue.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:33 pm

theshadowofseattle wrote:It was a Dunlop reissue.

Those are crap.

iCEByTes · Post by **iCEByTes** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:14 am

i guess i will do a "headbanger" Headphone Amp
dont sounds impossible i think i can do

its improve volume , Quality , bass , midles , low's

http://www.minidisc.org/headbanger.html

its good idea ???

my headphone have very clean sound , its a phillips but dont have volume

off ....
found cool method to do p.c.b's
http://www.inape.org.br/circuito.html

Post by **Mike** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:38 am

theshadowofseattle wrote:It was a Dunlop reissue.

Clearly not positive ground then.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:31 pm

Mike wrote:
theshadowofseattle wrote:It was a Dunlop reissue.
Clearly not positive ground then.

You weren't very specific then. You said "Fuzz Faces."

Post by **Mike** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:31 pm

theshadowofseattle wrote:
Mike wrote:
theshadowofseattle wrote:It was a Dunlop reissue.
Clearly not positive ground then.
You weren't very specific then. You said "Fuzz Faces."

I also said original Fuzz Faces.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:34 pm

Mike wrote:As far as I can remember, only the FuzzFace is +ve ground and that's so you can use PNPs...

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:27 pm

Shad does have a point.