Judging bands by their pedal boards

George · Post by **George** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:07 pm

yeah, i don't really judge people too much on their gear, more the stuff i'd listed previously. attitude is the biggest issue.

however, i do feel a little bit embarrassed for someone who gets onstage with loads of expensive gear but can barely play a note in an "all the gear no idea" sort of way. but ultimately it's their money and their hobby so i don't hold it against them. if their attitude stinks and they think owning expensive gear qualifies them to a certain higher echelon of knowledge/snobbery, then it will rub off terribly on them.

YuriK · Post by **YuriK** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:21 pm

So I suck because I dont like censorship, whatever.

I dont think of people negatively because of gear. But smiley face eqs annoy me.

George · Post by **George** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:30 pm

ykk211 wrote:So I suck because I dont like censorship, whatever.

"i use bigoted language to protest against censorship. look at how progressive i am." - ykk221

JordanD · Post by **JordanD** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:33 pm

George wrote:yeah, i don't really judge people too much on their gear, more the stuff i'd listed previously. attitude is the biggest issue.

however, i do feel a little bit embarrassed for someone who gets onstage with loads of expensive gear but can barely play a note in an "all the gear no idea" sort of way. but ultimately it's their money and their hobby so i don't hold it against them. if their attitude stinks and they think owning expensive gear qualifies them to a certain higher echelon of knowledge/snobbery, then it will rub off terribly on them.

What confuses me is how these people get the thought in their head that they're ready to get on stage when they can't keep time/tune their instrument etc. Anyone can learn and it's not a case of "being shit" but it's like "who's telling you that you're ready for that".

YuriK · Post by **YuriK** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:52 pm

George wrote:
ykk211 wrote:So I suck because I dont like censorship, whatever.
"i use bigoted language to protest against censorship. look at how progressive i am." - ykk221

Its just hypocritical to say to that you believe in freedom of speech and then flame someone for using it. I dont want to argue. I just believe that he can say whatever he wants

Noisy Cat · Post by **Noisy Cat** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:58 pm

ykk211 wrote:
George wrote:
ykk211 wrote:So I suck because I dont like censorship, whatever.
"i use bigoted language to protest against censorship. look at how progressive i am." - ykk221
Its just hypocritical to say to that you believe in freedom of speech and then flame someone for using it. I dont want to argue. I just believe that he can say whatever he wants

Utter bullshit. So-called 'Freedom of speech' doesn't give someone the right to just say whatever brainless and unnecessarily offensive shit they want.

George · Post by **George** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:09 pm

ykk211 wrote:
George wrote:
ykk211 wrote:So I suck because I dont like censorship, whatever.
"i use bigoted language to protest against censorship. look at how progressive i am." - ykk221
Its just hypocritical to say to that you believe in freedom of speech and then flame someone for using it. I dont want to argue. I just believe that he can say whatever he wants

do you honestly think saying faggot is in any way a meaningful discourse surrounding free speech other than some bullshit snarky south park-esque catch 22 high school kid way? because that's really how you're coming across.

this isn't about your "inalienable rights" or free speech, it's about ignorant language that marginalises certain people within society, and people calling you out on it. and no country has entirely free speech in the literal sense by the way, and i would never believe in that, but nice straw man

you're a kid, still at school, so it's fair enough that you're not really clued up, but you'll change your mind pretty quickly once you go to college or grow up. if you don't, that would be very worrying.

brainfur · Post by **brainfur** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:15 pm

George wrote: drummers wearing gloves

ahahahahahahahahahahaha i wish i could see that just once

WayToHip · Post by **WayToHip** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:00 pm

dezb1 wrote:The only time I judge someone by their pedal board is at acoustic gigs when they break out the DS-1 for 'the man who sold the world' you have to be a massive cock to do that...

Hahaha i've never seen this but I want to.
Gear is gear, you can play whatever you want and if it sounds good, good. i cringe when I see Deans guitars or Line six amps or the bassist has just a D.I. box. Mostly, though its attitude. My opinion on some groups changed quickly when i saw how dickish/down to earth they were.

bluesngrunge · Post by **bluesngrunge** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:04 pm

If black people can say that then I, a gay man, can say the f word.
(that was a joke plz don't think I'm racists)

dezb1 · Post by **dezb1** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:16 pm

WayToHip wrote:
dezb1 wrote:The only time I judge someone by their pedal board is at acoustic gigs when they break out the DS-1 for 'the man who sold the world' you have to be a massive cock to do that...
Hahaha i've never seen this but I want to.

Watch nirvana unplugged in new York to see the originator of the species.

YuriK · Post by **YuriK** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:19 pm

George wrote:
ykk211 wrote:
George wrote: "i use bigoted language to protest against censorship. look at how progressive i am." - ykk221
Its just hypocritical to say to that you believe in freedom of speech and then flame someone for using it. I dont want to argue. I just believe that he can say whatever he wants
do you honestly think saying faggot is in any way a meaningful discourse surrounding free speech other than some bullshit snarky south park-esque catch 22 high school kid way? because that's really how you're coming across.

this isn't about your "inalienable rights" or free speech, it's about ignorant language that marginalises certain people within society, and people calling you out on it. and no country has entirely free speech in the literal sense by the way, and i would never believe in that, but nice straw man

you're a kid, still at school, so it's fair enough that you're not really clued up, but you'll change your mind pretty quickly once you go to college or grow up. if you don't, that would be very worrying.

maybe one day I will change my mind, but for now this is what I believe. Thank you for not being (for the most part) condescending. Have a nice day.

YuriK · Post by **YuriK** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:21 pm

I want to make sure that you know I was in no way being sarcastic.

George · Post by **George** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:34 pm

lol good chat

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:34 pm

YuriK · Post by **YuriK** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:38 pm

George wrote:lol good chat

Do I still suck?

NickD · Post by **NickD** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:58 pm

JordanD wrote:
George wrote:yeah, i don't really judge people too much on their gear, more the stuff i'd listed previously. attitude is the biggest issue.

however, i do feel a little bit embarrassed for someone who gets onstage with loads of expensive gear but can barely play a note in an "all the gear no idea" sort of way. but ultimately it's their money and their hobby so i don't hold it against them. if their attitude stinks and they think owning expensive gear qualifies them to a certain higher echelon of knowledge/snobbery, then it will rub off terribly on them.
What confuses me is how these people get the thought in their head that they're ready to get on stage when they can't keep time/tune their instrument etc. Anyone can learn and it's not a case of "being shit" but it's like "who's telling you that you're ready for that".

I don't entirely agree that anyone can learn to tune a guitar. I have never been able to tune a guitar by ear, I doubt I ever will. I can tell when it's out of tune, even when it isn't by much.. Anyone can use a tuner though. I suspect some people will never be able to play in time either.

YuriK · Post by **YuriK** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:03 pm

NickD wrote:
JordanD wrote:
George wrote:yeah, i don't really judge people too much on their gear, more the stuff i'd listed previously. attitude is the biggest issue.

however, i do feel a little bit embarrassed for someone who gets onstage with loads of expensive gear but can barely play a note in an "all the gear no idea" sort of way. but ultimately it's their money and their hobby so i don't hold it against them. if their attitude stinks and they think owning expensive gear qualifies them to a certain higher echelon of knowledge/snobbery, then it will rub off terribly on them.
What confuses me is how these people get the thought in their head that they're ready to get on stage when they can't keep time/tune their instrument etc. Anyone can learn and it's not a case of "being shit" but it's like "who's telling you that you're ready for that".
I don't entirely agree that anyone can learn to tune a guitar. I have never been able to tune a guitar by ear, I doubt I ever will. I can tell when it's out of tune, even when it isn't by much.. Anyone can use a tuner though. I suspect some people will never be able to play in time either.

Yeah, not eceryone "has the ear" but everyone can learn to. It may take a very long time, but its possible. I feel like rythm is easier though.

bluesngrunge · Post by **bluesngrunge** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:16 pm

ykk211 wrote:
NickD wrote:
JordanD wrote: What confuses me is how these people get the thought in their head that they're ready to get on stage when they can't keep time/tune their instrument etc. Anyone can learn and it's not a case of "being shit" but it's like "who's telling you that you're ready for that".
I don't entirely agree that anyone can learn to tune a guitar. I have never been able to tune a guitar by ear, I doubt I ever will. I can tell when it's out of tune, even when it isn't by much.. Anyone can use a tuner though. I suspect some people will never be able to play in time either.
Yeah, not eceryone "has the ear" but everyone can learn to. It may take a very long time, but its possible. I feel like rythm is easier though.

I can tune about there by ear, but I always end up about 10 cents flat

YuriK · Post by **YuriK** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:20 pm

bluesngrunge wrote:
ykk211 wrote:
NickD wrote: I don't entirely agree that anyone can learn to tune a guitar. I have never been able to tune a guitar by ear, I doubt I ever will. I can tell when it's out of tune, even when it isn't by much.. Anyone can use a tuner though. I suspect some people will never be able to play in time either.
Yeah, not eceryone "has the ear" but everyone can learn to. It may take a very long time, but its possible. I feel like rythm is easier though.
I can tune about there by ear, but I always end up about 10 cents flat

Well tuners are much more accurate than any human can be. I can tune by ear if I already have one of the strings tuned correctly, I know the changes between strings but not the sound of each note.