Classic Player series gets a makeover.

Talk about all other types of guitars. Jazzmasters and basses go here!

Moderated By: mods

User avatar
George
.
.
Posts: 20953
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:52 am
Location: UK

Post by George »

i feel the trem lock is too helpful when gauging how to set the trem up to go without one for that money. i suppose its an easy swap for pedants like me
User avatar
ekwatts
A series of tubes
Posts: 24579
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:35 pm
Location: Bongchester

Post by ekwatts »

Wait, which Fenders don't have the trem lock? The Chinese Fender Modern Player Jazzmaster I got a few months ago has one. I can't understand why other Fenders out there don't have one? How do they justify that if even the Chinese models get one?
Image
Brandon W wrote:you elites.
User avatar
BearBoy
.
.
Posts: 7013
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:27 am
Location: Strung up to the lemons

Post by BearBoy »

The Blacktop Jazzmaster doesn't. Think that's MIM like these.
Fran wrote:I love how this place is basic as fuck.
ekwatts wrote:I'm just going to smash it in with a hammer and hope it works. Tone is all in the fingers anyway.
User avatar
ekwatts
A series of tubes
Posts: 24579
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:35 pm
Location: Bongchester

Post by ekwatts »

Well fuck. That's like a £200-£300 price difference in some cases, with the more expensive models getting the less functional trem. That's bizarro world stuff there.
Image
Brandon W wrote:you elites.
User avatar
George
.
.
Posts: 20953
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:52 am
Location: UK

Post by George »

"responding to consumer demands" or "streamlining functionality", or something vapid like that
User avatar
BearBoy
.
.
Posts: 7013
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:27 am
Location: Strung up to the lemons

Post by BearBoy »

"maintaining a difference between these and the AV65s"
Fran wrote:I love how this place is basic as fuck.
ekwatts wrote:I'm just going to smash it in with a hammer and hope it works. Tone is all in the fingers anyway.
User avatar
George
.
.
Posts: 20953
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:52 am
Location: UK

Post by George »

how many muggles are out there right now who have never giving their trem lock a second glance...

thanks a lot guys
User avatar
theshadowofseattle
THE TAMPA BAY HERO
Posts: 62654
Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:11 am
Location: Skrampa, FL

Post by theshadowofseattle »

what the fuck is the point of the lock? to not go out of tune during a string break, right?

wtf good is that? I've broken strings like twice in 10 years. fuck an lock
Fakir Mustache wrote:Classic Shad Deluxe.
Nick wrote:Some of Shad's favorite Teles are black.
User avatar
George
.
.
Posts: 20953
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:52 am
Location: UK

Post by George »

people use it for that i suppose

i actually think its important to have to set the trem up optimally. if the lock slides in and out perfectly while also locking the trem at pitch, you're in the correct position
User avatar
theshadowofseattle
THE TAMPA BAY HERO
Posts: 62654
Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:11 am
Location: Skrampa, FL

Post by theshadowofseattle »

Is it supposed to lock the trem into a hardtail? Because the one on my Jaguar doesn't, and that would literally be the only cool thing it could do for me.
Fakir Mustache wrote:Classic Shad Deluxe.
Nick wrote:Some of Shad's favorite Teles are black.
User avatar
BearBoy
.
.
Posts: 7013
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:27 am
Location: Strung up to the lemons

Post by BearBoy »

No. You can still push the trem down when the lock engaged, just not pull it up.
Fran wrote:I love how this place is basic as fuck.
ekwatts wrote:I'm just going to smash it in with a hammer and hope it works. Tone is all in the fingers anyway.
User avatar
NickS
.
.
Posts: 13769
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:08 am
Location: Down at the end, round by a corner

Post by NickS »

BearBoy wrote:No. You can still push the trem down when the lock engaged, just not pull it up.
Neat.
User avatar
George
.
.
Posts: 20953
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:52 am
Location: UK

Post by George »

it stops the trem from being able to do upward travel only (you can still push down on it) so it's nots really a proper hardtail i guess. tbh i think a jag trem without the arm attached is as hardtailed as it needs. you have to really lean or push into the collet that protrudes the trem plate to get the trem moving by accident, which the lock won't even stop, and i don't even know how you'd pull the trem up by accident unless there's an arm attached.

but a staytrem arm set up properly with a trem lock as a guide is invincible. best trem imo
User avatar
speedfish
.
.
Posts: 1152
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:08 am

Post by speedfish »

robroe wrote:FUCK BIG FRETS
Rob,

check out the specs: 7.25 radius and vintage fret wire! :D

http://www.nstuffmusic.com/p-35620-fend ... uitar.aspx
Disciple of Pain

"I'm like the monkey screwing the skunk. I haven't had enough, but I've about had all that I can stand!"

"Born to Lose. Live to Win." Lemmy Kilmister
User avatar
robroe
Bon Jovi Fan Club!!1
Posts: 49936
Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:00 pm

Post by robroe »

theshadowofseattle wrote:what the fuck is the point of the lock? to not go out of tune during a string break, right?

wtf good is that? I've broken strings like twice in 10 years. fuck an lock

back in the old days people used .005's instead of .13's
dots wrote:incesticide
User avatar
robroe
Bon Jovi Fan Club!!1
Posts: 49936
Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:00 pm

Post by robroe »

Image

doesn't look orangey enough

maybe its the white guard that makes it look like shit.

maybe I'm just pissed because I had myself a jaguar in a rare color the last 5 years

Image
dots wrote:incesticide
User avatar
Janine
.
.
Posts: 203
Joined: Sat May 11, 2013 6:23 pm
Location: Portland, Or
Contact:

Post by Janine »

I dunno about these. I loved my Classic Player Jag when I had it. No complaints about the bridge or the placement of the vibrato plate. (I had to let it go for financial reasons :( )

Whatevs.
Hello, I'm Janine.
User avatar
ultratwin
The 25.5" subversion
Posts: 6731
Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:47 pm
Location: Seoul

Post by ultratwin »

robroe wrote: doesn't look orangey enough
Sure looks almost Dakotish from over here.
User avatar
stewart
Cunning Linguist
Posts: 17644
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:33 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Contact:

Post by stewart »

BearBoy wrote:No. You can still push the trem down when the lock engaged, just not pull it up.
Not on my '66, it locks it completely (although that could be partly to do with how the trem is set).
Image
User avatar
ekwatts
A series of tubes
Posts: 24579
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:35 pm
Location: Bongchester

Post by ekwatts »

Yeah, I think some locks have a groove cut into them so if you engage them correctly it locks the trem from moving up and down. Pretty sure I noticed that on my Japanese Jaguar last time I opened it up. Never really use it and it's at a friends house at the moment so I can't check. It's possible that it only does that on the certain models but my Jag was all busted to fuckery when I got it and I ended up replacing a ton of bits on the trem and I'm not sure where some of the parts came from.
Image
Brandon W wrote:you elites.