NGD: Silvertoan for daaaaays

Post by **Doog** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:06 pm

Thomas wrote:Best of both worlds. Like the S1 switching system.

BTW what interface did you get to connect up to your guitar to the ipad?

The Peavey Ampkit Link, takes 2 AAA batteries to boost the output and I THINK do a bit of filtering.

Hahaha not in the market for an amp atm, but thanks for thinkin' of me

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 4:17 pm

I keep reading that as Armpit, but I assume it's actually quite good.

Post by **Doog** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:24 pm

I think the same every time I type it.

I think 'Peavey Armpit' is the term for stench of hair metal gigs in the mid 80s. THIS guy cut the sleeves off his shirt to try and avoid it:

Nice try, Sammy Sixstring!

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:13 pm

Post by **Doog** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:22 pm

In other non-armpit news, I whipped out the caps from both the blend pot (high end roll-off towards the neck pup) and 3-way switch (low end roll-off) and now have something way more usable!

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:47 pm

Looks great and sounds good on the whole Doog.
Good to hear the cap removal has improved certain settings. Is the break angle over the bridge a big problem? I used to raise the tail piece on SG's to get this, it seemed to improve playability regarding string tension.

Post by **Doog** » Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:39 pm

Fran wrote:Is the break angle over the bridge a big problem? I used to raise the tail piece on SG's to get this, it seemed to improve playability regarding string tension.

I really like it when a guitar feels super-solid, and really didn't like my Jazzmaster without the buzzstop adding the extra downwards pressure. It defo feels less plonky with the 11-49s I've got on there now, but if it can be beefier..

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:35 am

Nice move with the caps. Another demo?...

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:44 am

Doog wrote:
Fran wrote:Is the break angle over the bridge a big problem? I used to raise the tail piece on SG's to get this, it seemed to improve playability regarding string tension.
I really like it when a guitar feels super-solid, and really didn't like my Jazzmaster without the buzzstop adding the extra downwards pressure. It defo feels less plonky with the 11-49s I've got on there now, but if it can be beefier..

I see what you mean now.

Probably the reason I like short scale necks is more to do with that almost flappy loose feel of the strings.

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:48 am

Doog wrote: Ampkit for iOS; Peavey Valveking head set clean, matching 1x12, miked with an ON AXIS 58!

Fucking love this app, takes pedals really well. I splurged on the 'all pedals, amps, cabs and mics' deal, yet always seem to land on the Valveking model. Might need to buy a real one some day.

Ta for the Ampkit tip. I snagged the Â£14 version with all the bits n' bobs too. It's a very handy little app. It also works with my old griffin cable too so that's good.

Post by **Doog** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:50 pm

Fran wrote: Probably the reason I like short scale necks is more to do with that almost flappy loose feel of the strings.

I still don't quite understand the physics of it, but it's a big difference in teh feels. The combination of this and Gibson scale on this Silvertone makes the whole thing feel so different, looking forward to wrestling with the Tele next time I pick it up, haha

Thomas wrote:
Ta for the Ampkit tip. I snagged the Â£14 version with all the bits n' bobs too. It's a very handy little app. It also works with my old griffin cable too so that's good.

Wicked! I was playing around with all the heads through the same cab and mic setup last night, proves that I definitely need to get some old/old-style tube amp at some point because those squashy, boomy tones are so much more fun to play with versus over-compressed high gain stuff I was brought up on.

Will probs knock up another demo once I slap a Bigsby-style vibrato on it; don't think a few cap changes warrant more YT noise

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:44 pm

Those silvertones really kindve change the way you play. Wasn't used to that boomy kindve sound but now that I've got used to it my 1448 running through my 1483 is amazing.
Edit: you can really nail all the tones from early 60s albums.

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:26 pm

Doog wrote: Wicked! I was playing around with all the heads through the same cab and mic setup last night, proves that I definitely need to get some old/old-style tube amp at some point because those squashy, boomy tones are so much more fun to play with versus over-compressed high gain stuff I was brought up on.

Will probs knock up another demo once I slap a Bigsby-style vibrato on it; don't think a few cap changes warrant more YT noise

Funnily enough I'm enjoying the compressed metal toanz because I don't own an amp like that. You should get yourself an old Peavey Classic Doog. They're 70s/80s, can be found for under Â£100 and sound great. The one I have is a hybrid amp so you get the solid state reliability with some proper tube sound. It's an amazing sweet sounding amp. 50 watts and the only bad point is that it weighs a ton.

They used to call these the poor mans Twin. It's not tho, its amazing!!

I picked it up for Â£70. It has McKenzie Forte speakers and is doubling as a cab for my Bassman. I might try to score a cheap Bugera 333 at some point for some metaltoanz.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:37 pm

Looks more like the poor man's musicman than a twin. Which also weigh a ton (didn't think it was possible for a 1x12 combo to weigh MORE than my twin did but I tried to pick one up the other day and nope)

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:41 pm

Mine is a 2x12.

Post by **Doog** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:43 pm

Update: did an (knock-off) Bigsby B5.

Big difference to the 'string feel', what with the tension bar that the B5s have.

I defo preferred the look of the B3s, but didn't wanna blow Â£100+ (no clones) on something purely for the cosmetics, without it even addressing the whole 'string tension' thing (no tension bar). This shiny guy was like Â£30 quid delivered.

Holds tune pretty well, seems like the sideways string angle is the main culprit on a few strings, but total managable.

Really wanna do something Mustang-ish on that tailpiece as the whole 'tiny post to put ballend on' is a total pain in the ballend.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:01 am

Doog wrote: Really wanna do something Mustang-ish on that tailpiece as the whole 'tiny post to put ballend on' is a total pain in the ballend.

It'll likely cost you as much as the knockoff trem (which I can't personally guarantee it will fit, hopefully someone knows), but the Vibramate String Spoiler is designed to soothe that particular brand of ballend pain.

Post by **Doog** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:30 am

Cheers Paul- I have actually seen those before, but given the fact they CLAIM to not even work on the licensed B50 and B500, I'm dubious that it'll play ball with my cheapo.

Check out this old boy's modifmaction:

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ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:23 am

I have a vibramate currently on my Gretsch Baritone. I imagine that's a licensed trem as the guitar is only Â£300, and it fits fine. I actually have the same cheapo Bigsby as you bought Doog, it's lying around somewhere (I'd have sold it cheepo, I didn't realise you were looking (FYI anyone that wants it, Â£10 + delivery)) so I COULD try the Vibramate on it, but it's going to be a bit of a pain.... I'll make a go of it over the weekend when I have a bit more time, probably.

But they're definitely worthwhile if you're struggling with the Bigsby. Obviously, it makes super sense on the Bari because of the humongousness of the strings, but I never bothered getting one for my Epiphone Riviera as I'd sort of got used to bigsbys by that point. I'd go through five minutes of "FUCKING HELL THIS SHIT IS FRUSTRATING I WISH I HAD A VIBRAMATE" every month, but then it was over and balance was restored.

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:28 am

I'm just thinking about it now... From memory, the holes that the Vibramate attaches to the bigsby trem by are actually oval shaped. I think it's two-pins to a hole or something, so there's some leeway in between the two end posts, but I'm guessing it's between those two points that everything has to fit. Unless the string spread is radically different between bigsbys (and I'm not saying it isn't, but it does make me wonder why the fuck it would be) then I can't really see how the Vibramate can't fit other bigsbys.

Anyway, my interest is now firmly piqued (piqued!) so I'm going to give this a go as soon as I can.