gibson humb? can anybody tell?

broomhandle · Post by **broomhandle** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:56 pm

I traded for guitar for the pickup. was told it was from a 1991 Gibson SG. I took the PU out, and no markings... I always thought Gibson stamped the back.

anybody?

Untitled by Broomhandle Zero, on Flickr

George · Post by **George** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:28 pm

From mylespaul: http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showt ... he-Pickups

>>I have an older one that is stamped Gibson USA on the back, I was wondering what year that would be.<<
The Gibson USA stamped pickup baseplates are from the modern era. They followed the "Pat. No. " stamped baseplates, and I have seen a few occurrences of the Pat. No. baseplates right up until maybe 1990, so I expect the Gibson USA baseplates are from maybe 1990 or so and on. They should have two sets of pole piece holes, one set of six holes regular spacing and the other set of six holes with the modern wider bridge pickup pole spacing...

If that's correct maybe your 1991 used old pickups left over or it's actually a 1990. Couldn't say myself

broomhandle · Post by **broomhandle** » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:53 pm

sweet, thank you.... he said it was a 90 or 91... now if neck or bridge... haha

71Smallbox · Post by **71Smallbox** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:41 pm

I don't know if this is a genuine Gibson. For one, the screw posts should go all the way through the bottom of the base plate and protrude a little. Another thing thats missing is the patent number, even if they're not Gibson stamped, they would have the patent number stamped on them or at the very least a sticker or some very visible sticker residue. The color of the base metal is odd too, it should be silver-gray. The wiring looks suspect as well, it should have the braided wire shield around the wire.

broomhandle · Post by **broomhandle** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:10 pm

The guitar is a 2004 bc rich bronze. i got it from a kid who said he pulled it from his brothers 1990/91 SG. but there is the problem. maybe the SG had a crap PU and it was a 91...

would like it to be a gibson PU....

anybody else?

71Smallbox · Post by **71Smallbox** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:47 pm

broomhandle wrote:The guitar is a 2004 bc rich bronze. i got it from a kid who said he pulled it from his brothers 1990/91 SG. but there is the problem. maybe the SG had a crap PU and it was a 91...

would like it to be a gibson PU....

anybody else?

Why on earth would anyone take a pickup from an SG and put it in a BC Rich? That part doesn't add up. The pickup doesn't look like a Gibson or even an Epiphone, no amount of wishing will change that. Sorry. How does it sound?

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:48 pm

Pretty sure smallbox meant the [polepiece] screws should be coming out the bottom of the baseplate, not guitar. The polepiece screwheads also don't look big enough to me for the Gibson USA spec... it doesn't strike me as any Gibson bucker I've seen at a glance but admittedly I'm shaky on 80s Gibson.

That baseplate looks importy as all hell.

sunshiner · Post by **sunshiner** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:52 pm

71Smallbox wrote:The wiring looks suspect as well, it should have the braided wire shield around the wire.

This

BearBoy · Post by **BearBoy** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:52 pm

paul_ wrote:shaky on 80s Gibson.

* Looks for photo of Shakin' Stevens playing a Les Paul. Or any Gibson. Fails. FUCK YOU INTERNET

71Smallbox · Post by **71Smallbox** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:04 pm

paul_ wrote:Pretty sure smallbox meant the [polepiece] screws should be coming out the bottom of the baseplate, not guitar..

I recently caught that and edited. thanks.

HNB · Post by **HNB** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:48 pm

They don't always have the metal braiding on the outside of the wires for ground, but the pole pieces do normally stick through the bottom of the plate. Maybe it was an Epiphone SG the pickups were from? The import ones can have pickups like that I would believe. Maybe the Burns pickups were nicer so the guy swapped them in to the SG to keep and unloaded the Burns with the (not as nice) pickups?

broomhandle · Post by **broomhandle** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:28 pm

people do dumb things. this kid said his brother upgraded the pickups in his SG and he took one of the pickups for his "Cool" guitar. i basically got it for free, so no loss. I was just hoping it was a Gibson PU. it was not even wired up. so i have no idea how it sounds. tweaker.... i am starting to think no gibson as well.

Fakir Mustache · Post by **Fakir Mustache** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:38 pm

Do you have any pics of the guitar? Sorry if it doesn't help any, but it seems like it could be a cool guitar, refinished isn't it?

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:03 pm

Yeah I was gonna say, many Gibson pickups did have grey plastic insulated wire since the early 70s. The currently produced Dirty Fingers reissue even has it. The widespread return to braided metal shield wire was partially motivated by a return to classic 50s specs put in motion since Henry Jerkoffowitz came onboard.

broomhandle · Post by **broomhandle** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:48 pm

its a 2004 BC rich Bronze. ill prob re-fin it. maybe sparkle white, i dont know. and off it...

2004 bc rich by Broomhandle Zero, on Flickr

broomhandle · Post by **broomhandle** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:51 pm

or if somebody here is interested PM me, make an offer, they can re-fin it... the neck at least was left alone, and it plays good.

Fakir Mustache · Post by **Fakir Mustache** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:50 pm

That's kind of an interesting finish, maybe not so much on that body and it's not perfect. What did you trade for it?

vojtasTS29 · Post by **vojtasTS29** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:11 pm

If this was mustang/jag shaped, i woulh have loved that. Looks kinda punky and homemade, but nice at the same time. :/

broomhandle · Post by **broomhandle** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:11 pm

Fakir Mustache wrote:That's kind of an interesting finish, maybe not so much on that body and it's not perfect. What did you trade for it?

i moved and i had a bike frame that i just needed to go... i usually put for sale or trade... got any music gear? and here it is... haha

i would trade for this if anybody wants to. the finish is spray paint. but it could be cool. i thought speed boat sparkle!