Distortion...

Brandon W · Post by **Brandon W** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:51 pm

vojtasTS29 wrote:90% of them would be pretty close. but i currently want to get the bass big muff instead (don't have the money to get a green russian )

scrambled brainz has the blend knob bro.. didn't you read my posts? HA

vojtasTS29 · Post by **vojtasTS29** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:55 pm

I am broke tho.

this has a blend switch.

Brandon W · Post by **Brandon W** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:01 pm

vojtasTS29 wrote:I am broke tho. this has a blend switch.

dezb1 · Post by **dezb1** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:07 pm

I don't have a DS-1 but I do have a DST-3 which is pretty much the same thing.

Brandon W · Post by **Brandon W** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:33 pm

so yeah it sounded worse than i remember but still not terrible. Certainly doesn't deserve the rep it gets IMO

dezb1 · Post by **dezb1** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:39 am

Been looking my preserved lack of love for the humble distortion pedal, and have found that the 'Darling'of OSG Nels Cline agrees with me...

"I ended up loving the â€™70s-era Marshall Guv'nor distortion after many Pro Co Rat years. But the input/output jacks disintegrate and nothing fits into those big holes left after that plastic decays. The Z.Vex Box Of Metal almost stole my heart with its super-shaping tone knobs and cool gate option (it is good). Then I discovered the Crazy Tube Circuits Starlight, which is just as rich and creamy as a Rat or Guv'nor but has even more oomphâ€”more presence (whatever that means). Made in Greece and marketed by Tone Concepts in Toronto, it's a killer. I am still a bit baffled as to why there are so few "distortion" options as opposed to "fuzz" and "overdrive,"

dub · Post by **dub** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:02 am

There's plenty of distortion options.

I think the fetishism has calcified around particular Amplifiers, so the pedals are generally the "amp-in-a-box" type.

Look at Wampler's entire range for instance.

vojtasTS29 · Post by **vojtasTS29** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:26 pm

http://soundcloud.com/vojtasts29/ds-1-demo
Probably the two DS-1 sounds i like the most. Dimed tone on a neck single coil and full on humbucker(at the end) some pickup configs tried in the middle. I think the quality is pretty ok, but it is my amp on like 1,5 miked with the wireless SM-58 thing.

OOOH. forgot the settings. Bass 4, full mids, Treble 6, tiny accidental amount of reverb...

Pedal is tone 11,5 o clock, level full, dist full.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:36 pm

I think it's a issue of terminology more than anything else: "overdrive" has ideas of naturalism about it, of pushing an amp to it's characteristic breakup. "Fuzz" harks right back to the very first pedals, and those 60s Johnny Hendrix toanz we all crave. "Distortion" sounds neither naturalistic or particularly "heritage", plus it's got big whiffs of the 80s about it: when I got my first pedal for Xmas in 1989 (!) it was a distortion I wanted - I'd have been mortified to get a fuzz.

dub · Post by **dub** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:45 pm

I think two other factors could be the increased range of specialised high gain amps (VHT etc.) and the improvements in modelling technology. The bands looking for distortion, often metalheads, no longer see digital as a dirty word, and if they do, there are now amps up to the task without needing additional pedals.

Brandon W · Post by **Brandon W** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:59 pm

dub wrote:I think two other factors could be the increased range of specialised high gain amps (VHT etc.) and the improvements in modelling technology. The bands looking for distortion, often metalheads, no longer see digital as a dirty word, and if they do, there are now amps up to the task without needing additional pedals.

digital? not interested

vojtasTS29 · Post by **vojtasTS29** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:03 pm

most modern bands have like an AxeFx or a Kemper going into a active loadbox and from there into their headphones. Sometimes they have cabinets for show. The ones who want to be really oldschool use a Dual Rectifier and totally kill its sound with a terrible pedal called a tubescreamer, which somehow gets all the fucking attention everywhere. Boom there you go, no need for our loved solid state stompboxes, unless you actually want to sound good and want midrange and bottom end existent in your sound and not just "super tight" clean chugs.

chemistforhire · Post by **chemistforhire** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:40 am

vojtasTS29 wrote:http://soundcloud.com/vojtasts29/ds-1-demo
Probably the two DS-1 sounds i like the most. Dimed tone on a neck single coil and full on humbucker(at the end) some pickup configs tried in the middle. I think the quality is pretty ok, but it is my amp on like 1,5 miked with the wireless SM-58 thing.

OOOH. forgot the settings. Bass 4, full mids, Treble 6, tiny accidental amount of reverb... Pedal is tone 11,5 o clock, level full, dist full.

To each his own. To me it doesn't sound very saturated and doesn't sound very amp like. Also while playing single notes it didn't sound very clear or reacted well to how you hit the strings.

This is the distortion pedal I use: Emma Reezafratzitz II
Emma reezafratzitz II
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johnnyseven · Post by **johnnyseven** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:27 pm

timhulio wrote:It's a wonder no-one ever cloned the DS-1. Even one with the uncle monty mods already there or whatevs.

BYOC used to offer 'Orange Distortion Pedal' kit which I believe is a DS-1 clone. Some also say that the MXR '78 Badass Distortion is a DS-1 clone.

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:12 pm

There's a Mooer/Eno/Donner DS-1 clone with a switch to toggle between a couple do-an-mods.