you can dive with a mustang trem without detuning

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:07 am

mine is absolutely lovely:

i think most of you here knows how it's a mustang well set up.
i see a lot on the internet who lock the trem, add hotrails, etc... and play nirvana songs... for me it's not a mustang anymore. That trem is awesome and very different from the jaguar. and i prefer single coils.

(however, i'm a nirvana fan since almost 25 years)

Fakir Mustache · Post by **Fakir Mustache** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:22 am

nice stang, cool video

jagsonic · Post by **jagsonic** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:20 pm

Cool Video. Also like the mustang trem - but prefer the jagtrem. And i like humbucker in mustangs. With the 3wayslider you can split it and you are on single sound. REALLY awesome on mustangs is the out-of-phase sound

StevePirates · Post by **StevePirates** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:00 pm

I really like your comparison video between the Mustang - Jag - Jazzmaster. I appreciate that you don't blather on for 30489928345 minutes before playing for 2.

iCEByTes · Post by **iCEByTes** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:58 pm

after i did mad-mike setup nevermore my jag-stang went out of tune

Concretebadger · Post by **Concretebadger** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:32 pm

WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?!

Seriously, that sounds great. I really like the Mustang I used to own, but never worked out how to stop it going out of tune. The slightest hint of use from the reverb handle just ruined the tuning completely.

I'm not sure whether I was making any one particular mistake, or whether there was a general lack of understanding on my part. It doesn't have the same "feel" as a JM/Jag trem, but the tightness, sensitivity and "bounce" of the Mustang trem was a nice change for me. If only it actually worked properly.

speedfish · Post by **speedfish** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:39 am

jagsonic · Post by **jagsonic** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:41 pm

Concretebadger wrote:I'm not sure whether I was making any one particular mistake, or whether there was a general lack of understanding on my part. It doesn't have the same "feel" as a JM/Jag trem, but the tightness, sensitivity and "bounce" of the Mustang trem was a nice change for me. If only it actually worked properly.

Where is the link to the right setup?

Post by **dots** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:56 pm

this is a great thread. thanks for sharing, johnny!

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:18 am

that blog is good: http://musicwrench.blogspot.fr/2009/10/ ... setup.html

for me; i equilibrate the cigar tube, most people tighten it too much.
verify your neck nut holes, it must allow the strings to move, sometimes with big gauge stringes the holes can be too small.
use at least 11's strings.
when you tune your guitar, give several vibrato actions and retune, and do again until it's stable tuning.

i will make a detail picture later

chemistforhire · Post by **chemistforhire** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:30 pm

Johnny Noir wrote:that blog is good: http://musicwrench.blogspot.fr/2009/10/ ... setup.html

for me; i equilibrate the cigar tube, most people tighten it too much.
verify your neck nut holes, it must allow the strings to move, sometimes with big gauge stringes the holes can be too small.
use at least 11's strings.
when you tune your guitar, give several vibrato actions and retune, and do again until it's stable tuning.

i will make a detail picture later

The setup in that guide you linked to does not really allow for much vibrato use. You can only dive in one direction and your vibrato arm winds up pointing out in an awkward angle.

I think icey was referring to this set up guide on jagstang:Vibrato set up

dylanafghjkl · Post by **dylanafghjkl** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:26 am

I just don't think I'll ever get used to my mustang trem, only thing I miss about my other offsets.

Johnny Noir · Post by **Johnny Noir** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:36 am

chemistforhire wrote:
Johnny Noir wrote:that blog is good: http://musicwrench.blogspot.fr/2009/10/ ... setup.html

for me; i equilibrate the cigar tube, most people tighten it too much.
verify your neck nut holes, it must allow the strings to move, sometimes with big gauge stringes the holes can be too small.
use at least 11's strings.
when you tune your guitar, give several vibrato actions and retune, and do again until it's stable tuning.

i will make a detail picture later
The setup in that guide you linked to does not really allow for much vibrato use. You can only dive in one direction and your vibrato arm winds up pointing out in an awkward angle.

I think icey was referring to this set up guide on jagstang:Vibrato set up

that guide is better

on mine i use the "neutral" (equilibrium) position as he calls

honeyiscool · Post by **honeyiscool** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:06 am

I use 9s. I don't use the arm. I have the cigar tube with a healthy margin under it. When I need vibrato, I pull or push on the tube with the palm. I hit the cigar tube when the guitar seems out of tune and it puts the guitar back in tune. After a while, you learn exactly where the correct tuning is and can find it pretty easily.