I've also never had an issue with this when flying with guitars with rosewood boards. I think that's more to do with importing and exporting.NickD wrote:If it had a rosewood fretboard cites would be an issue though.
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For vintage guitars (with Brazilian rosewood, or what the customs officers think might be Brazilian rosewood) it affects travelling with them as well as importing and exporting. It's a bit of a minefield.Gabriel wrote:I've also never had an issue with this when flying with guitars with rosewood boards. I think that's more to do with importing and exporting.NickD wrote:If it had a rosewood fretboard cites would be an issue though.
While not being wrong, the section that mentions vintage guitars is dangerously misleading. You can import/export/travel with a vintage non Brazilian rosewood guitar as much as you like, as long as it predates the recent cites law.
However, there is an existing cites law that restricts the movement of Brazilian rosewood in a similar way to how ivory for example is restricted, and many vintage Fenders, Gibsons and Martins, among others were built using Brazilian rosewood.
You absolutely need a Cites certificate to travel with your pre '70 Gibson SG or pre '65 Jazzmaster. Later vintage guitars? By those manuufacturers supposedly didn't include Brazilian rosewood, but you are relying on the knowledge of the customs officer to know that.
You are (or at least were) restricted on the airports you can bring a Guitar with Cites documentation in through - quite a restriction for touring musicians.
You can apply for a Musical Instrument Certificate un the UK, which meets UK requirements and precludes the need for a Cites certificate, but you are still subject to import restrictions in the country you are travelling to.
I can't remember, but I think there may need to be some proof of when the instrument was originally sold/came into the UK, and who has that on a vintage guitar?
Do bands get away with moving undocumented vintage guitars with Brazilian rosewood? Yes, of course they do. Would I, considering how much they cost? No.
Like I said, it's a minefield
However, there is an existing cites law that restricts the movement of Brazilian rosewood in a similar way to how ivory for example is restricted, and many vintage Fenders, Gibsons and Martins, among others were built using Brazilian rosewood.
You absolutely need a Cites certificate to travel with your pre '70 Gibson SG or pre '65 Jazzmaster. Later vintage guitars? By those manuufacturers supposedly didn't include Brazilian rosewood, but you are relying on the knowledge of the customs officer to know that.
You are (or at least were) restricted on the airports you can bring a Guitar with Cites documentation in through - quite a restriction for touring musicians.
You can apply for a Musical Instrument Certificate un the UK, which meets UK requirements and precludes the need for a Cites certificate, but you are still subject to import restrictions in the country you are travelling to.
I can't remember, but I think there may need to be some proof of when the instrument was originally sold/came into the UK, and who has that on a vintage guitar?
Do bands get away with moving undocumented vintage guitars with Brazilian rosewood? Yes, of course they do. Would I, considering how much they cost? No.
Like I said, it's a minefield
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