Suggestions for junior player

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:52 am

What NickD said, though there's something special about being the first owner too.

When I was at school there was a kid I didn't know (he was 13, we were 17) whose Gran bought him a Gibson LP gold top. We were pretty much "he won't know what to do with it" but it was her money.. '72 gold top hmmmmm...

sunshiner · Post by **sunshiner** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:16 am

Such a wonderful granny though. It pains me to think how she spent her savings to buy something good for her grandson

kingkiller · Post by **kingkiller** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:48 am

NickS wrote:What NickD said, though there's something special about being the first owner too.

When I was at school there was a kid I didn't know (he was 13, we were 17) whose Gran bought him a Gibson LP gold top. We were pretty much "he won't know what to do with it" but it was her money.. '72 gold top hmmmmm...

That must have been a fair bit of change! IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m sure it mustÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve been a nice looking guitar (although to be fair when it comes to 70Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s Gibsons, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve always been much more partial to all of the lawsuit ripoffs than the real deal themselves)

All this to say: I canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t wait to buy my hypothetical children expensive gear they wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t necessarily appreciate lol

kingkiller · Post by **kingkiller** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:53 am

sunshiner wrote:Such a wonderful granny though. It pains me to think how she spent her savings to buy something good for her grandson

I did some (very quick and rough) math on how much that guitar costs: I found a couple sources that said a Les Paul was anywhere from $750-$1000 in the 70s (using round numbers because itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s more just about the estimate) and in USD in 2020, a $750 guitar would cost around $5,030. Wonderful granny indeed

sunshiner · Post by **sunshiner** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:56 pm

Wow, that's way too much. That kid got even bigger gifts than the one in question here

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:14 pm

Continuing off topic, at the time (1972) I think Yardley's Music in Plymouth, Devon, was selling Les Paul's for around Ã‚Â£400 - Ã‚Â£450 and Strats for around Ã‚Â£280, IIRC. ISTR a couple of years earlier it was Ã‚Â£350 and Ã‚Â£250.

Noirie. · Post by **Noirie.** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:22 pm

This back in the days of cheap Offsets?

Post by **dots** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:00 pm

i'll weigh-in with recommending to not necessarily get the cheapest thing laying around as it needs to be relatively comfortable to play. i've long felt half the reason people give up guitar is poorly crafted/setup instruments unnecessarily hurting their hands and fingers. guitar is hard enough to stretch into without shite builds muddying the water.

unless we're talking really small hands, i don't think shortscales are a must-have, tho, for beginners. i mostly learned on a yamaha acoustic and a strat. *shrug*

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:01 pm

sunshiner wrote:Yeah, let the dad know that the kid will need an amp. Like many non guitarists he might be thinking that toan comes straight out of the guitar, so they might reconsider the way they want to spend their budget

TOAN COMES FROM TEH FINGERS

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:04 pm

Get him a black SG and a JCM800

Then he can start a 2003 revival warp tour band and bang and endless supply of chicks with tattoos and tube tops

mickie08 · Post by **mickie08** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:58 pm

dots wrote:i'll weigh-in with recommending to not necessarily get the cheapest thing laying around as it needs to be relatively comfortable to play. i've long felt half the reason people give up guitar is poorly crafted/setup instruments unnecessarily hurting their hands and fingers. guitar is hard enough to stretch into without shite builds muddying the water.

unless we're talking really small hands, i don't think shortscales are a must-have, tho, for beginners. i mostly learned on a yamaha acoustic and a strat. *shrug*

this

riotshield · Post by **riotshield** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:43 pm

Thanks for the (hugely off-topic) feeback. You can always trust shortscale for not judging

Just for reference, boy has a 2000Ã¢â€šÂ¬ parrot.

Post by **dots** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:07 pm

great! tell him to by me a '70 orange comp stang!

plopswagon · Post by **plopswagon** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:29 pm

dots wrote:great! tell him to by me a '70 orange comp stang!

The parrot?

Post by **dots** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:03 pm

sure, if he's got the cash.

NickS · Post by **NickS** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:48 pm

Noirie. wrote:This back in the days of cheap Offsets?

I think it was in the days when only Strats and Teles were just about the only Fenders sold new in the UK.

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:40 pm

Im waiting for the pic' with guitar in his hands !

NickD · Post by **NickD** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:34 pm

NickS wrote:
Noirie. wrote:This back in the days of cheap Offsets?
I think it was in the days when only Strats and Teles were just about the only Fenders sold new in the UK.

I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think offsets were ever truly cheap in the UK. A Japanese JM was several hundred in the early 90s, and the magazines I have from that time have the vintage ones at Ã‚Â£800-Ã‚Â£1000.