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He could get any tone out of his amp with One pickup and One knob, he got his clean, his solo, and his over the top screaming solo tone and he didn't need 4 modes to do it and had a way better tone than you'll ever have.Mike wrote:hahaha.. Van Halen suck balls. Worst argument ever.jcyphe wrote:Yeah cause EVH needed 4 channels and alot of switches and a huge Pedal board, Fuck outta here with that.
loljcyphe wrote:had a way better tone than you'll ever have.
People also played for years without PAs miking the guitar amps, years without pedal floor tuners, years without in-ear monitoring, years without decent guitar leads. I guess because the Big Boppa made do without all that stuff, we should just make do without too, eh?jcyphe wrote:Yeah cause EVH needed 4 channels and alot of switches and a huge Pedal board, Fuck outta here with that. People been playing for years without 4 modes on their amps. I guarantee the majority of people that own that amp are Bedroom Posers because sheer production numbers would dictate that, So eat it.Doog wrote:And it's made for people who gig, not bedroom heros.Mike wrote: Erm. No.
It entirely depends on the player - personally I need at least three sounds (Clean, Crunchy and a Heavier Crunch for leads) and would love having 4 (Clean, Edge of Breakup, Crunch and Heavier Crunch).
And I love Marshall EL34s.
Horses for Courses - I hate fuzz pedals - how'd you like that shit?
it's all opinions Mike, if you're going to throw out your own, don't be upset when I use mines. There seems to be a whole lot of people getting defensive just because I said I like simple amps. You should examine that, why are you insecure with your own opinion of gear.Mike wrote:loljcyphe wrote:had a way better tone than you'll ever have.
You used the "T" word. Back the FDP with you.
Wtf is that anyway? Eddie Van Halen had a better tone than me?
Oh noes! Says who? I say I like the way my guitar sounds - who are you or anyone else to argue otherwise? Show me where the "tone" graph is and let's figure out where I am. How retarded.
i've posted numerous times that i hate pedals in general, but i'm not trying to tell the world that their day is over, either. they can be quite useful, actually.jcyphe wrote: You posted you hate fuzz pedals, you don't see me dissing you and telling you OH NOEZ YOU DONT UNDERSTAND the fuzz. Whatever, typical insecure SS-losery.
It's no coincednce to me that music keeps getting worse and less imganitaive.Doog wrote:People also played for years without PAs miking the guitar amps, years without pedal floor tuners, years without in-ear monitoring, years without decent guitar leads. I guess because the Big Boppa made do without all that stuff, we should just make do without too, eh?jcyphe wrote:Yeah cause EVH needed 4 channels and alot of switches and a huge Pedal board, Fuck outta here with that. People been playing for years without 4 modes on their amps. I guarantee the majority of people that own that amp are Bedroom Posers because sheer production numbers would dictate that, So eat it.Doog wrote: And it's made for people who gig, not bedroom heros.
It's just convenient. 4 channels with loads of extra options could negate the need for a big pedalboard, for people who want a lot of sounds and volumes onstage.
No I meant you shouldn't be so into attacking people who have different opinions about Gear. i will always say what I don't like and like, but rarely will I admonish anybody for their opinion which is what is Insecure and loserish.Mike wrote:roffles
You think I'm upset, I'm not. You're talking rubbish - there is a difference.
All guitarists are different.
Where have I said you don't understand multichannel amps? And secondly I'd hardly call saying I hate fuzz as insecure losery.
If you can't discuss anything without flinging mud and then attempting to justify it with some gravitas don't bother.
there's no way to say that's the definitive reason or anything more than one of myriad contributing factors to the decline of imagination. . . because you could also turn that argument on its ear and say that having MORE options should make one MORE creative since each open door leads to more ways to go.jcyphe wrote:It's no coincednce to me that music keeps getting worse and less imganitaive.
Like in studios, with Pro Tools. People used to be so much more limited in the Studio and its my opinion that it made them better in a way. Just because they have more options doesn't make them better, in fact it might make them sloppier and less tight.
Music from where? The top 40? Amazon's top selling albums? Yeah probably. That's what the underground is for.jcyphe wrote:It's no coincednce to me that music keeps getting worse and less imganitaive.Doog wrote:
People also played for years without PAs miking the guitar amps, years without pedal floor tuners, years without in-ear monitoring, years without decent guitar leads. I guess because the Big Boppa made do without all that stuff, we should just make do without too, eh?
It's just convenient. 4 channels with loads of extra options could negate the need for a big pedalboard, for people who want a lot of sounds and volumes onstage.
Like in studios, with Pro Tools. People used to be so much more limited in the Studio and its my opinion that it made them better in a way. Just because they have more options doesn't make them better, in fact it might make them sloppier and less tight.
I'm not attacking anyone. I'm responding to your assertion that "multi-channel amps are played out". In my opinion they're not - lots of guitarists seem to find them useful.jcyphe wrote:No I meant you shouldn't be so into attacking people who have different opinions about Gear.
Que?jcyphe wrote:If you are not confident enough in the Guitar amp or pedal or amp you play that when somebody says that sucks and you can't comeback with a simple I Like It, than you are probably insecure about it.
Sorry.
that's not exactly what you were saying. for one, nobody on this board has actually heard or played through this amp (other than shitty internet recordings), so saying you like the specific amp is kind of impossible. saying you hate all multi-channel amps is fine, too, but my amusement with your statement had more to do with them being "played out." you made no argument in support of that claim other than "older guys didn't need them," when in reality they simply couldn't use something that never existed.jcyphe wrote:No I meant you shouldn't be so into attacking people who have different opinions about Gear. i will always say what I don't like and like, but rarely will I admonish anybody for their opinion which is what is Insecure and loserish.
