Gate pedal?

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:10 pm

Doog wrote:
PenPen wrote:
"Gate" means that it only allows a certain portion of the signal through. Sometimes, if you are building a pedal and misbias a gain stage, you will get what is called "gating", where only certain voltage swings come through. AKA "farting" or "burping".
Yeah, that! Farting and burping!

The gate control on the Ultra Fuzz I used to have (similar to the Fuzz Factory) could be set so it'd kill hum/noise when you're not playing. Crank it too high, and it just attenuated the volume.. but in the middle, you got some great squelchy stuff happening, with spluttering sustain as the note died off..

THAT'S what I'm after.

Sounds more like a pot on the base pin bias to cause the transistor to go unbiased so that noise voltages didn't turn the part on. Let me think for a bit on how that could be done.

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:11 pm

This thread is Hialrious.

Bill Gates?

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:12 pm

jcyphe wrote:This thread is Hialrious.

Bill Gates?

Master Bates.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:14 pm

Gareth Gates

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:15 pm

Cemeterey Gates

Two non-sensical Morrissey refrences in one Thread FTW!

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:16 pm

jcyphe wins again

SickenedEmotions99 · Post by **SickenedEmotions99** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:36 am

PenPen wrote:Sickened, did you read WTF I wrote and understand what a noise gate does? You had the threshold too high, the decay of your notes went under threshold, and it shut the signal down. Exactly what it is supposed to do. Also, you normally don't want to have a noise gate running ALL the time.

The MXR Gate supposedly has a really smooth on/off, sounding more "natural" was what I'd read in reviews of it. Now, granted that was a DIY build of the original, so maybe they changed the current circuit, but unlikely.

I'm fully aware of what a Noise Gate does. I tried all of my guitars, on any setting I could think of. So I know I'm not just an idiot. I would think that trying it with 4 different guitars, all with very different pickups, would be a worthy experiment. With the threshold turned up high, it cancelled all the hum, but it killed the tone. Even with the threshold about 1/3 of the way up, it still killed the tone, sustain, and didn't do a damn thing about the hum. I have a high gain amp, and use alot of distortion/fuzz, so I figured it'd help. It didn't. I've also read a bunch of reviews from guys with the exact same problem. So it's not just me.

James · Post by **James** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:21 am

Actually, it sounds like quite a common thing for guitarist to expect it to do more than it does.

I think it's quite likely you were mis-using it. the same as i did with that hypen just there.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:12 am

SickenedEmotions99 wrote:
PenPen wrote:Sickened, did you read WTF I wrote and understand what a noise gate does? You had the threshold too high, the decay of your notes went under threshold, and it shut the signal down. Exactly what it is supposed to do. Also, you normally don't want to have a noise gate running ALL the time.

The MXR Gate supposedly has a really smooth on/off, sounding more "natural" was what I'd read in reviews of it. Now, granted that was a DIY build of the original, so maybe they changed the current circuit, but unlikely.
I'm fully aware of what a Noise Gate does. I tried all of my guitars, on any setting I could think of. So I know I'm not just an idiot. I would think that trying it with 4 different guitars, all with very different pickups, would be a worthy experiment. With the threshold turned up high, it cancelled all the hum, but it killed the tone. Even with the threshold about 1/3 of the way up, it still killed the tone, sustain, and didn't do a damn thing about the hum. I have a high gain amp, and use alot of distortion/fuzz, so I figured it'd help. It didn't. I've also read a bunch of reviews from guys with the exact same problem. So it's not just me.

I just don't care enough to argue with you.

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:03 am

d00dz.

4 real. that BOSS noise gate is like standard issue metal up your ass equipmentz. i mean c'mon, WANYE FUCKING GODDAMNED STATIC USES ONE SO IT MUST BE TR00 M37^Lz.

Post by **Doog** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:02 pm

SickenedEmotions99 wrote:
PenPen wrote:Sickened, did you read WTF I wrote and understand what a noise gate does? You had the threshold too high, the decay of your notes went under threshold, and it shut the signal down. Exactly what it is supposed to do. Also, you normally don't want to have a noise gate running ALL the time.

The MXR Gate supposedly has a really smooth on/off, sounding more "natural" was what I'd read in reviews of it. Now, granted that was a DIY build of the original, so maybe they changed the current circuit, but unlikely.
I'm fully aware of what a Noise Gate does. I tried all of my guitars, on any setting I could think of. So I know I'm not just an idiot. I would think that trying it with 4 different guitars, all with very different pickups, would be a worthy experiment. With the threshold turned up high, it cancelled all the hum, but it killed the tone. Even with the threshold about 1/3 of the way up, it still killed the tone, sustain, and didn't do a damn thing about the hum. I have a high gain amp, and use alot of distortion/fuzz, so I figured it'd help. It didn't. I've also read a bunch of reviews from guys with the exact same problem. So it's not just me.

Don't you need to put it after the gain stage to make it work, though? Meanin an FX loop if you're using amp distortion?

noirengineer · Post by **noirengineer** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:48 pm

zvex's gate control is not a gate at all..
it's like a feedback circuit