POTHEAD

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:08 pm

Where is the cheapest place to get good quality pots and jacks for vintage shorties? I want working pots more than I want to restore originals. I am guessing Stewmac is more spendy than necessary. I prolly need setups for like 3 gits. I already have black cloth wire and one toggle switch. If I am using a rails HB in a single slot, should I go 250 or 500? I think the toggle adds a lot of the cost.

Is this KIT sufficient for MMs and Duoze? I guess the 500K is teh overkillz.

1 - 1/4" output jack
2 - 500K pots
1 - .047?F capacitor
12" Non-shielded guitar circuit wire, 22AWG, white
24" Non-shielded guitar circuit wire, 22AWG, black
12" Shielded guitar circuit wire, 28AWG inner conductor, black
Wiring diagram

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:33 pm

the caps and the pots won;t mesh well, i believe the .047 nanofared cap is more for singles and 250 pots
i believe you need like a .023 cap for 500s,, i could be wrong but thats what i remember as being true.

iCEByTes · Post by **iCEByTes** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:33 pm

be careful when choice pots , bad maded can do noise

i recommend get from CBS (Fender and Gibson Choice) or Gotoh (Alpha) , they are good maded

capacitor get Spague Orange Drop or Mallory or Xicon

ekwatts · Post by **ekwatts** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:36 pm

iCEByTes wrote:be careful when choice pots , bad maded can do noise

i recommend get from CBS (Fender and Gibson Choice) or Gotoh (Alpha) , they are good maded

capacitor get Spague Orange Drop or Mallory or Xicon

Are you speaking from firsthand experience?

iCEByTes · Post by **iCEByTes** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:45 pm

ekwatts wrote:
iCEByTes wrote:be careful when choice pots , bad maded can do noise

i recommend get from CBS (Fender and Gibson Choice) or Gotoh (Alpha) , they are good maded

capacitor get Spague Orange Drop or Mallory or Xicon
Are you speaking from firsthand experience?

i am experienced more than you at Eletronicals

i work on computer and eletronicals area have 8 years!

i know capacitors and potenciometers better than you !

i used CBS and Alpha and I KNOW WHAT A HELL I TALKING ABOUT

White beauty got Alphas 500k and Jag-stang i Replaced Volume per an 500K CBS , its DONT NOISE

luke · Post by **luke** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:55 pm

iCEByTes wrote:
ekwatts wrote:
iCEByTes wrote:be careful when choice pots , bad maded can do noise

i recommend get from CBS (Fender and Gibson Choice) or Gotoh (Alpha) , they are good maded

capacitor get Spague Orange Drop or Mallory or Xicon
Are you speaking from firsthand experience?
i am experienced more than you at Eletronicals

i work on computer and eletronicals area have 8 years!

i know capacitors and potenciometers better than you !

i used CBS and Alpha and I KNOW WHAT A HELL I TALKING ABOUT

White beauty got Alphas 500k and Jag-stang i Replaced Volume per an 500K CBS , its DONT NOISE

Simple question, bitchy answer. Not classy.

I've never had a noisy potentiometer, and trust me dude I've played the cheapest of guitars.

euan · Post by **euan** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:32 pm

To be fair to icey he is right, Alpha pots are first class. And that is first hand experience from myself. All my homebrew effects and replaced pots are Alphas and I've never had trouble with them
Though in a pots lifespan they will get noisy, but that is always just a cleaning away from getting sorted.

I also can't complain about Xicon caps.

Can that be the end of the argument please fellas?

James · Post by **James** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:09 pm

Malik wrote:Simple question, bitchy answer. Not classy.

Watts constantly riding iCEys balls. Not classy.

iCEy was justified in his tone here.

luke · Post by **luke** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:13 pm

bob wrote:
Malik wrote:Simple question, bitchy answer. Not classy.
Watts constantly riding iCEys balls. Not classy.

iCEy was justified in his tone here.

Two wrongs never made a right. Icey could totally annihilate Eric by like, not giving a fuck about what he says. That'd be classy. He has at least some experience, but rather than make it sound like he knows what he's talking about, Icey puts forth his knowledge in the most arsey way he can, for example "i know capacitors and potenciometers better than you ! ", and " I KNOW WHAT A HELL I TALKING ABOUT ". That really is unclassy, and Eric makes him look stupid every time.

But yeah. There aren't really any bad pots, and seeing as you're restoring rather than making an Icey-spectacular-dream-machine of a guitar, you can always go for the cheap ones. Have you tried pricing things up on GuitarPartsResource?

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:13 pm

Lock the thread.

James · Post by **James** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:16 pm

Malik wrote:
bob wrote:
Malik wrote:Simple question, bitchy answer. Not classy.
Watts constantly riding iCEys balls. Not classy.

iCEy was justified in his tone here.
Two wrongs never made a right. Icey could totally annihilate Eric by like, not giving a fuck about what he says. That'd be classy. He has at least some experience, but rather than make it sound like he knows what he's talking about, Icey puts forth his knowledge in the most arsey way he can, for example "i know capacitors and potenciometers better than you ! ", and " I KNOW WHAT A HELL I TALKING ABOUT ". That really is unclassy, and Eric makes him look stupid every time.

To me, Icey wins at least half of the time. Watts is too obsessed with looking more intelligent than he is and the voice of reason all the time. Icey just tells it as he sees it and stands his ground when he can be assed, the guys got way more class.

euan · Post by **euan** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:17 pm

Malik wrote:There aren't really any bad pots

Beg to differ. Ever seen the plastic shaft pots that Behringer use? Compare them to the Alpha or CTS pots used by more guitar/effects/amp builders and you'll find a world of a difference.

Then there is the difference in damping between different brands and models. Without at least a little damping your pots would spin like nothing.

luke · Post by **luke** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:18 pm

www.guitarpartsresource.com is a REALLY good source for guitar parts!

NickD · Post by **NickD** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:22 pm

Malik wrote:
I've never had a noisy potentiometer, and trust me dude I've played the cheapest of guitars.

I've got a few 70's guitars, and believe me, they go from noisy, to flat out fucked. Except in the Fenders ( I can't afford old Gibsons, so I wouldn't know)

They tend to die with age, if they are cheap, but work ok when fairly new.

luke · Post by **luke** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:27 pm

NickD wrote:
Malik wrote:
I've never had a noisy potentiometer, and trust me dude I've played the cheapest of guitars.
I've got a few 70's guitars, and believe me, they go from noisy, to flat out fucked. Except in the Fenders ( I can't afford old Gibsons, so I wouldn't know)

They tend to die with age, if they are cheap, but work ok when fairly new.

Well, I mean the cheapest of new guitars. Every low level guitar I've played, even the the Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese ones and stuff, they all have working electronics in them. The fact is, these days it's just as easy to make good electronics as it is bad electronics. If you're buying new electronics, you don't have to worry about noise and breaking and stuff, it's all made by robots anyway, and robots don't get it wrong very often.

sttawke · Post by **sttawke** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:31 pm

robots get it wrong all the time. the stories i could tell...

luke · Post by **luke** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:36 pm

sttawke wrote:robots get it wrong all the time. the stories i could tell...

Computers don't make errors, humans make errors.

euan · Post by **euan** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:58 pm

Malik wrote:
sttawke wrote:robots get it wrong all the time. the stories i could tell...
Computers don't make errors, humans make errors.

Errors like purposely choosing inferior parts to make something to a price? CAM ensure consistent quality, but if you put garbage in you get garbage out.

iCEByTes · Post by **iCEByTes** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:32 pm

Malik wrote:
bob wrote:
Malik wrote:Simple question, bitchy answer. Not classy.
Watts constantly riding iCEys balls. Not classy.

iCEy was justified in his tone here.
Two wrongs never made a right. Icey could totally annihilate Eric by like, not giving a fuck about what he says. That'd be classy. He has at least some experience, but rather than make it sound like he knows what he's talking about, Icey puts forth his knowledge in the most arsey way he can, for example "i know capacitors and potenciometers better than you ! ", and " I KNOW WHAT A HELL I TALKING ABOUT ". That really is unclassy, and Eric makes him look stupid every time.

But yeah. There aren't really any bad pots, and seeing as you're restoring rather than making an Icey-spectacular-dream-machine of a guitar, you can always go for the cheap ones. Have you tried pricing things up on GuitarPartsResource?

stupid point , when you work on eletronical area you learn separate good and trash ....

I use at my experiences

Capacitors :
Epcom , Simens , Rubycon , Xicon , Silvermica , Spague (witch i like use at guitars) , Panasonic , United Chemi-Con , Nippon Chemi-Con , Nichicon , Panasonic , Sanyo , CDE / Mallory , Elna , Vishay

Potenciometers:
CTS , Alphas

handen · Post by **handen** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:53 pm

My pot is always fresh.