Koch Pedaltone

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:17 pm

Anybody ever used one of these? They're stupid expensive, but the description sounds exactly like what I'm looking for...

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=489601

zoinks · Post by **zoinks** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:28 pm

tube driven pedals > me

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:53 pm

zoinks wrote:tube driven pedals > me

Hi Zoinks. Thanks, but what does that mean?!

zoinks · Post by **zoinks** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:57 pm

it means that i would love to have that, but the price is way to high for me. I would love to hear some clips of it though.

arcadedave · Post by **arcadedave** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:57 pm

I don't think anyone here has one I'm afraid. But God, for that money why not just get another amp?

zoinks · Post by **zoinks** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:01 am

arcadedave wrote:I don't think anyone here has one I'm afraid. But God, for that money why not just get another amp?

yeah with that cash i could buy a jcm800 to stick on top of my peavey head.

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:04 am

zoinks wrote:it means that i would love to have that, but the price is way to high for me. I would love to hear some clips of it though.

Ah-so! Gotchya.

arcadedave wrote:I don't think anyone here has one I'm afraid. But God, for that money why not just get another amp?

I'm thinking if it sounded as good as it looks like it should, I'd try to find one used. There's one on Ebay right now at 311.00, but god knows what it'll end up at. Alot of the harmony central reviewers seem to have gotten them in the $400's...

James · Post by **James** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:51 am

I'd never heard of it, and was going purely on this thread, but that cost about $500 more than i expected.

Post by **Doog** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:42 am

arcadedave wrote: But God, for that money why not just get another amp?

+1

Post by **Mike** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:45 am

Buy a gun and shoot yourself for being a sap.

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:50 pm

Mike wrote:Buy a gun and shoot yourself for being a sap.

LOL! It's right in line with the whole "boutique" amp pricing, which I guess Koch is a part of, and is completely ridiculous. Still, the gear is usually nice, and if it could be had used, for half the retail price, might not be a bad deal.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:52 pm

Seriously though, get yourself a nice amp instead. Or two amps.

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:13 pm

Mike wrote:Seriously though, get yourself a nice amp instead. Or two amps.

Thing is, I have amps. I'm looking for something like this Koch thing - a pedal, or a portable pre, that could be used in the studio, and/or hooked up to a power amp/speaker. The Orange tiny terror looks fun too, though it's also overpriced, and seems like a one trick pony... I would never
pay retail for the Koch, and it may well sound like garbage, I've never heard it... But, the feature set sounds exactly what I want.

Post by **Mike** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:15 pm

lol.. you're saying the Orange is overpriced and you're considering an $800+ pre-amp? It'll get you great sounds from across the spectrum in the studio. Hardly one trick.

If you're looking for studio sounds that are versatile look no further than downloading a hooky copy of GuitarRig2. It's excellent. Fuck this preamp shit.

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:25 pm

Mike wrote:lol.. you're saying the Orange is overpriced and you're considering an $800+ pre-amp?...

Mike - read my posts - I've never suggested paying $800 for the preamp. I said if it was really good, i'd try to find a cheap one! Plus that thing is alot more than a preamp... The Orange does sound good, from the clips I've heard...

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:37 pm

I think this pre-amp would be a ridiculous investment. A truly terrible, expensive mistake.

mickie08 · Post by **mickie08** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:10 pm

I can see the benefit of having a tube powered pedal with all the options, but the pedal board like that is going to be very dependant upon the sound of the amp you are using anyways. As far as studio work, I would still want it to go through a guitar amp/cabinet as direct recording still doesn't get the same tone. The only real use for this I would say is if you gigged all the time and wanted the flexibility of say a 4 channel amp, but did not want to spend the $. Say you had a twin or a Roland jc 120 that had great clean tone, but wanted to use that pedal instead of 2 or 3 other dirt pedals. Still overpriced even for this. At 200-250 used maybe, but not more.

Also Koch are mainly european metal amps right? My knowledge is a little limited here. If that is the case, I would want to play it. Tube powered drive pedals are alot more touchy with how they sound with a particular setup as opposed to normal pedals. I have had a few and they definitely need a high quality clean tone to work with.

The Tiny Terror is awesome....I actually got the 1st one that was available here in San Diego and the thing kicks ass. As far as for studio work, it would (and will be soon hopefully) great. It is not the most versatile live amp unless you use alot of pedals, use only one tone or so, or want to spend time fiddling knobs all night....In the studio that does not matter as you have plenty of time to twek the knobs and dial in tone.

zoinks · Post by **zoinks** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:11 pm

That thing costs more than my blazer.

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:22 pm

mickie08 wrote:I can see the benefit of having a tube powered pedal with all the options...The only real use for this I would say is if you gigged all the time and wanted the flexibility of say a 4 channel amp...

That's exactly what I need, and that's why I was so attracted to the feature set of the pedal - virtually a 4 channel preamp, with a power amp stage, and solo boost on each channel - great for live work, Plus it's got the fx loop, and very versatile connectivity, even speaker sim, which could be valuable in recording, demo work, etc... However, as I, and everyone else has noted, it's WAY too expensive.

mickie08 wrote:Also Koch are mainly european metal amps right?...

I dunno - I've never even heard of Koch, so my main question is, has anybody ever heard one of these things, or any Koch amp for that matter? Better yet, does anyone know of something with similar features, that's portable and affordable?!

mickie08 · Post by **mickie08** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:33 pm

I think Mesa has a simliar thing to....V-twin pedal or something. I don;t think it is much cheaper though...Maybe a little as there are more of them made.

From what I have heard (and it is not alot) Koch is known for high end, high gain rock amps....Could be totally wrong on that.