fretman's mustang build

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:14 pm

what wil be the color and the overall "list"

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:44 pm

Doog wrote:
Billy3000 wrote:Awesome... it'll look like the stang with 3 pickups that the guy from Blur rocked in the "coffee and tv" vid.
I think that was just a Musicmaster with another pickup put in, no bridge pup:

WEIRD! Looks like a superfluous rout.

Post by **Doog** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:53 pm

Oh yeah, it might just be a hole. You only see it properly for a few seconds in the video, kinda hard to make it out exactly. I figured it might be a black robroe cover?

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:31 pm

robert(original) wrote:what wil be the color and the overall "list"

Hi Robert - it's gonna be a tan color of an undisclosed nature

, with a white pickguard and white pups (save of course the lipstik). It's basically a 3 pup stang (Jb Jr, lipstik, dimarzio vv), with a tom and stop tail. 3-way pup switch will be on the lower horn, with only one pup available at a time, no combos (Icey will hate this guitar

). It'll have a master vol and tone, perhaps with a pull pot to coil split the hb in the bridge. The neck is a vintage '64 "A" width 'stang, courtesy of Ebay. I may change my mind on the lipstik, 'cuz it might look a little Frankenstein-ish (unless they come in custom colors). The main idea is to have something substantially different sounding than the other two...

Billy3000 · Post by **Billy3000** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:17 pm

Doog wrote:
Billy3000 wrote:Awesome... it'll look like the stang with 3 pickups that the guy from Blur rocked in the "coffee and tv" vid.
I think that was just a Musicmaster with another pickup put in, no bridge pup:

Ok... I didn't remember correctly. I could have sworn I remembered it having 3 pickups!

mezzio13 · Post by **mezzio13** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:17 pm

DGNR8 wrote:Saga has discontinued their mini Tele kits.

NOOOOOOO! I wanted to get one of those and never did. Actually I told the wife for at least the past two Christmases, "I'd really love this electric mandolin kit.", only to get a tie. Some guy was selling Mandobird necks and bodies cheap on Ebay...

Aug, that's some bad ass work. Also, you're right, using the old two fingers as a compass method, those magnets will center out just fine.

Aug · Post by **Aug** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:27 pm

I could be completely wrong, but I don't think placement of the middle pup is *all* that important. I know there is an "invisible fret" placement for the neck pup, but I don't know of the other two. I'm sure there must be some sort of justifiable science or whatnot to it, but it doesn't matter much at this stage, as I'm mostly doing "monkey see, monkey do."

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:59 pm

Aug wrote:I could be completely wrong, but I don't think placement of the middle pup is *all* that important...I'm sure there must be some sort of justifiable science or whatnot to it, but it doesn't matter much at this stage...

There may be some mathematical formula that would suggest favorable placement, using scale length, harmonics, nodes, etc..., but I would think there's a lot of room for variation/experimentation. Also, once the pickup is at an angle, all that mathematical crap would go out the window, no?

I did find THIS, tho it's for 25.5 scale. It's all Greek to me!

luke · Post by **luke** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:31 pm

Well I was thinking visually the three pickups wouldn't sit exactly the same distance apart, but looking at it more closely I think I might've been wrong in my initial assumption.

I reckon you'd be better off getting a weird middle pickup from GFS, they do loads of different styles (crazy high output for example) of single coil, you could experiment with a weird one and put it in there. Ultimately I think it'd look best if you have three white Robroe covers on the pickups, but if you're that crazy about having the unique pickup don't let it stop you. It'd be cool if you got a reverse wound one in there, then you get the humbucker bonus and stuff.

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:56 pm

Malik wrote:...I reckon you'd be better off getting a weird middle pickup from GFS...

Thanks Malik, I'll take a look at GFS. Right now I can't get past their home page, but even there, I see different colored lipsticks - encouraging! I don't want something that sounds weird, just something totally different from the sc neck and hb bridge.

...if you got a reverse wound one in there, then you get the humbucker bonus and stuff.

I actually don't plan to use any of the pickups in unison, so that's not a problem! Thanks.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:58 pm

DGNR8 wrote: WEIRD! Looks like a superfluous rout.

the original pickup (with it's black stang/mm/duo/robroe cover) has been moved to the middle, and a strat's neck pickup and switch seem to have been added.
from the 'beetlebum' video

Post by **Doog** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:48 pm

Aha, nicely slueth'D Paul. I thought Coxon was very much a bridge/bridge & neck pickup dude, weird he should have an axe without one. I guess he didn't use it live.

Maybe you're thinking of Thurston Moore-Moore-Moore's triple-pup Stang, Billy?

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:51 pm

Tan color, huh? Hmmm.

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:36 pm

DGNR8 wrote:Tan color, huh? Hmmm.

Well, what I envision is a creamy sorta "mocha" color, but that doesn't exist, per se, in what's available. I picked a couple that are in the ballpark, and from there I'm leaving it in Aug's hands. So, as of this moment, I don't know, I'm just his guitar-comissioning he-bitch.

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:21 pm

wait,
a tune o matic with a vintage neck?
i think you might want to reconsider that, im just saying that cuz a tune o matic is general set for a 12-16 neck radius and a vintage fender is almaost garenteed to be a 7.25-9
or i guess you could just slot out the grooves a bit.

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:19 pm

robert(original) wrote:wait,a tune o matic with a vintage neck?
i think you might want to reconsider that, im just saying that cuz a tune o matic is general set for a 12-16 neck radius and a vintage fender is almaost garenteed to be a 7.25-9 or i guess you could just slot out the grooves a bit.

My local tech, who I trust implicitly, said not to worry. He's gonna slot the saddles for me, and do all the hardware/electronics installz.

Aug · Post by **Aug** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:21 pm

fretman wrote:
robert(original) wrote:wait,a tune o matic with a vintage neck?
i think you might want to reconsider that, im just saying that cuz a tune o matic is general set for a 12-16 neck radius and a vintage fender is almaost garenteed to be a 7.25-9 or i guess you could just slot out the grooves a bit.
My local tech, who I trust implicitly, said not to worry. He's gonna slot the saddles for me, and do all the hardware/electronics installz.

nice to know! I was geared to slot them. Glad I won't have to now.

fretman · Post by **fretman** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:38 pm

Aug wrote:nice to know! I was geared to slot them. Glad I won't have to now.

Doh! Communication breakdown! Yeah, no need, it's covered. Thanks Aug.

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:42 pm

ok good,
i would have hated it if youwouldn't had done that and been like, "what the hell, what a p.o.s.!!!"
i tried to groove the saddles on tracys a while back, and the abr1's are solid as a rock, i mean it took a long time before i got when i wanted to be and i was using a quility rasp.

Aug · Post by **Aug** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:52 pm

UPDATE.

I set the stop tail piece at the Mustang specs, btw.