Rat and Muff COMBO

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 16, 2007 1:22 pm

How funny is this? Actually pretty smart too with regard to pedal real estate

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Wed May 16, 2007 1:41 pm

Clever.

I never understood why the muff was housed in such a big casing in the first place.

kim · Post by **kim** » Wed May 16, 2007 1:51 pm

good idea, i always wanted to try out a rat2 but never got the chance, lots of bassists use it for dirt too

and indeed, the housing of the bm is kind of stupid, it looks nice but i just kicked it off my board because it takes up way too much space, it's not really a 'must' but sometimes i miss it, i considered getting the lbm but some dude says it's just not the same..whatever

and then there's the non standard adapter plug thing too with ehx pedals..

Alyn · Post by **Alyn** » Wed May 16, 2007 2:02 pm

That's amazing, simply brilliant idea.

euan · Post by **euan** » Wed May 16, 2007 2:50 pm

lamp wrote:Clever.

I never understood why the muff was housed in such a big casing in the first place.

Old school box for old school sized parts maybe. I have a BMP waiting to be boxed at some point when I can be bothered. Its MXR sized for compactness.

Post by **Doog** » Wed May 16, 2007 3:31 pm

Coolass. I woulda lined up the stompswitches for looks, and internally daisychained the power jacks so they/"it" could run from one source, but it's cool.

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 16, 2007 3:34 pm

Doog wrote:Coolass. I woulda lined up the stompswitches for looks, and internally daisychained the power jacks so they/"it" could run from one source, but it's cool.

Roger that.

Tweez · Post by **Tweez** » Wed May 16, 2007 4:28 pm

heavium wrote:good idea, i always wanted to try out a rat2 but never got the chance, lots of bassists use it for dirt too

Krist Novoselic was using one through a JCM800 Bass Amp when I saw Flipper, it sounded fucking awesome.

Post by **Doog** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:10 pm

I used my Reutz'D RAT2 on bass in Illuminati 3, sounded good with a decent amp.

kim · Post by **kim** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:45 pm

i remember the bassplayer from zebulon pike told me he uses one too (or used to)

i'd be able to use it for both guitar and bass, i'd like something other than the bm for distortion on guitar later on (don't use my amp's distortion) but i kinda wonder ..can te rat2 go from overdrive to distortion..or is it just a pure distortion box ?

Post by **Doog** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:52 pm

The newer ones have crappy pots that do the whole sweep over 1/3 of the dial, the last 2/3 doing nothing.. so it can be hard to dial in lower gain sounds.

Definately can get more OD'y with the Ruetz mod. I can rustle up some sounds tomorrow if you're interested.

kim · Post by **kim** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:58 pm

if you have some time that'd be nice yes, last summer i helped out a band for one gig and the guitarist had a rat2 but he used it for a heavy distortion and i never asked to test it at rehearsals

would be handy if it can also deliver some overdriven sounds too instead of just a full on distortion.

Post by **Doog** » Wed May 16, 2007 9:20 pm

Just found this, I did some samples a while ago. Jazzmaster (with beefy Quarter Pound pickup in bridge) into RAT2 (Ruetz mod) into Marshall DSL50.

SONDS

It's probably more flexible with single coils since you've got less input gain from the get-go.

kim · Post by **kim** » Wed May 16, 2007 9:45 pm

thanks !

Post by **Mike** » Thu May 17, 2007 9:08 am

Doog wrote:The newer ones have crappy pots that do the whole sweep over 1/3 of the dial, the last 2/3 doing nothing.. so it can be hard to dial in lower gain sounds.

That's just not true. My RAT2 is newer than yuors and the dials change the sound over the whole dial. I'll have to bring it to the meetup.

Post by **Doog** » Thu May 17, 2007 9:56 am

Mike wrote:
Doog wrote:The newer ones have crappy pots that do the whole sweep over 1/3 of the dial, the last 2/3 doing nothing.. so it can be hard to dial in lower gain sounds.
That's just not true. My RAT2 is newer than yuors and the dials change the sound over the whole dial. I'll have to bring it to the meetup.

Ah well, that's what I heard on the GuitarGeek forums, maybe it was an oldass post. Good to hear they sorted that shit out, it was a pretty dumb thing to do.

If they weren't PCB mounted, I woulda changed them myself by now.

Post by **Mike** » Thu May 17, 2007 10:13 am

Guitargeek I find a little slow. I like the speed of the HC forums but the people there are real hit and miss. Some are great but on the Amp forum particularly if you're not into metal and/or Mesa/Boogie then you're an idiot. There is serious Marshall hayte over there.

We'll do a side by side in August for sure, I'd be interested to hear the differences innit.