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great work, roachella!
mike: ed roman is a huge cocksucker. dave and I were talking this evening over at the shop about how no other manufacturer actually listens to the guitar player. We want to. We want to produce guitars for guitar players with (us having) no pre-concieved ideas. The really cool thing about dave and I's dynamic is that, despite how alike we are, we also have completely opposing ideas on what we find attractive, and are both willing to experiment with each other's ideas...and that opens us both of up to a whole different world. I find that invaluable.
Furthermore, we also value the opinions on these boards, as many of you are working/performing musicians and we are extremely interested in your ideas/opinions.
mike: ed roman is a huge cocksucker. dave and I were talking this evening over at the shop about how no other manufacturer actually listens to the guitar player. We want to. We want to produce guitars for guitar players with (us having) no pre-concieved ideas. The really cool thing about dave and I's dynamic is that, despite how alike we are, we also have completely opposing ideas on what we find attractive, and are both willing to experiment with each other's ideas...and that opens us both of up to a whole different world. I find that invaluable.
Furthermore, we also value the opinions on these boards, as many of you are working/performing musicians and we are extremely interested in your ideas/opinions.
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I think the closer you can get the product to what people are after then the more likely you are to succeed, I understand that complete flexibility isn't an option for you at the moment since it's a financial issue but offering aftersale (of a standard model) options such as different material pickguards might be a good idea - you'll make the same money as a normal pickguard sale and also please the customer.
it also might be an idea to get a simple webpage up ASAP with things like the specs, the design pictures, and then you can add to it and you do the first few builds - some pictures of a series of bodies after being built/painted wiring jigs etc.. will be really inspiring to people thinking about buying as you want to give the impression of good quality and fast work to as many people as possible, not just this board.
Maybe you could start on the wiki and expand into your own site after.
Also getting a deposit value set in stone would be a good idea - doing something like $200 down up front and the rest before shipment might be a good system.
it also might be an idea to get a simple webpage up ASAP with things like the specs, the design pictures, and then you can add to it and you do the first few builds - some pictures of a series of bodies after being built/painted wiring jigs etc.. will be really inspiring to people thinking about buying as you want to give the impression of good quality and fast work to as many people as possible, not just this board.
Maybe you could start on the wiki and expand into your own site after.
Also getting a deposit value set in stone would be a good idea - doing something like $200 down up front and the rest before shipment might be a good system.
Expanding on Roachello's version (which totally kicks ass).
I reckon you could give people the choice of bridge (TOM, Mustang etc), which could lead into some nicely spaced string holes, like ones on a Venus for example. That means sustain, and everyone loves sustain.
As you can see I also moved the knobs so they follow the curves rather than be straight, and I made them smaller. A three way toggle would work nicely just there. I also reckon a Tele socket jack would work nice too.
This is getting and better as more and more ideas go into it!
I reckon you could give people the choice of bridge (TOM, Mustang etc), which could lead into some nicely spaced string holes, like ones on a Venus for example. That means sustain, and everyone loves sustain.
As you can see I also moved the knobs so they follow the curves rather than be straight, and I made them smaller. A three way toggle would work nicely just there. I also reckon a Tele socket jack would work nice too.
This is getting and better as more and more ideas go into it!
is it just me, or that pickguard shape just get Star Trek'd?Malik wrote:Expanding on Roachello's version (which totally kicks ass).
I reckon you could give people the choice of bridge (TOM, Mustang etc), which could lead into some nicely spaced string holes, like ones on a Venus for example. That means sustain, and everyone loves sustain.
As you can see I also moved the knobs so they follow the curves rather than be straight, and I made them smaller. A three way toggle would work nicely just there. I also reckon a Tele socket jack would work nice too.
This is getting and better as more and more ideas go into it!
indeed it did.Aug wrote:is it just me, or that pickguard shape just get Star Trek'd?Malik wrote:Expanding on Roachello's version (which totally kicks ass).
I reckon you could give people the choice of bridge (TOM, Mustang etc), which could lead into some nicely spaced string holes, like ones on a Venus for example. That means sustain, and everyone loves sustain.
As you can see I also moved the knobs so they follow the curves rather than be straight, and I made them smaller. A three way toggle would work nicely just there. I also reckon a Tele socket jack would work nice too.
This is getting and better as more and more ideas go into it!
WHoa! I missed this green guitar post. Nice find. That's uncanny. I think that there are bound to be similarities in any direction. They are wading through 50 years of design on several continents. At least it's not guitar S, T, or LP.
A few points to consider as the design develops:
Does it pose any problem if the sides of the headstock are not straight? This has more to do with fabricating the head than engineering the strings. I think you could have the pins go straight (like the green one) even if the edges aren't.
The green one also has a nice flow from top crotch (horn notch?) to bottom. Let's not lose sight of that line or it could be awkward. Classic styling means clean and balanced.
Since most guitars are round at the base and have one or two horns, the primary distinguishing points will be whether the round base is slanted and how much, and how big the horns are, what shape, etc. Look at how different these two are in a close comparison. I also think that Roachello's kickass rendering misses the somewhat subtle jut of the lower horn. Since it was based on Aug's sketch (not dead guys like Kurdt or Leo, etc) it is up to Aug to decide what he meant, but I would think you would do well to distance from a Strat look.
Other big diffs can be traced from the development of the angular Tele, through the Duo to the Jaguar. The Tele was thick, flat on the edge, with no contours. The Duo is rounded, but stubby with no offset or contours. Finally the advanced models have both offsets and contours, which include different thicknesses and slopes. The thinnest parts of the Jag are IMPOSSIBLY thin so as to look delicate and almost fragile. This isn't to say that the Tele is a bad design. That's like saying you have a favorite letter. X is nice, but we use them all. We take elements from all the designs of the past, whether consciously or not.
I like this green guitar but IMO the head looks a little Hagstrom, I would like to see a more modern F hole with a matching angle, and the block inlays need some curves. That may seem arrogant, but I am not assailing his guitar, I am riffing on it. Merely a 5 minute photoshop design exercise. Aug should go through dozens of these before cutting a single board. Refinement is as like wet sanding ideas.
A few points to consider as the design develops:
Does it pose any problem if the sides of the headstock are not straight? This has more to do with fabricating the head than engineering the strings. I think you could have the pins go straight (like the green one) even if the edges aren't.
The green one also has a nice flow from top crotch (horn notch?) to bottom. Let's not lose sight of that line or it could be awkward. Classic styling means clean and balanced.
Since most guitars are round at the base and have one or two horns, the primary distinguishing points will be whether the round base is slanted and how much, and how big the horns are, what shape, etc. Look at how different these two are in a close comparison. I also think that Roachello's kickass rendering misses the somewhat subtle jut of the lower horn. Since it was based on Aug's sketch (not dead guys like Kurdt or Leo, etc) it is up to Aug to decide what he meant, but I would think you would do well to distance from a Strat look.
Other big diffs can be traced from the development of the angular Tele, through the Duo to the Jaguar. The Tele was thick, flat on the edge, with no contours. The Duo is rounded, but stubby with no offset or contours. Finally the advanced models have both offsets and contours, which include different thicknesses and slopes. The thinnest parts of the Jag are IMPOSSIBLY thin so as to look delicate and almost fragile. This isn't to say that the Tele is a bad design. That's like saying you have a favorite letter. X is nice, but we use them all. We take elements from all the designs of the past, whether consciously or not.
I like this green guitar but IMO the head looks a little Hagstrom, I would like to see a more modern F hole with a matching angle, and the block inlays need some curves. That may seem arrogant, but I am not assailing his guitar, I am riffing on it. Merely a 5 minute photoshop design exercise. Aug should go through dozens of these before cutting a single board. Refinement is as like wet sanding ideas.
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