Refinished vintage guitars

downer · Post by **downer** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:29 pm

dont know, if this is the right section, hope so..

so what is it with the refinishing? why do prices of guitars go so drasticaly down, when the lacquer is not original? Is it just for the "100% original" sticker?

or does it really so dramaticaly affect the sound of a guitar as i have read somewhere?

i had a refinished 65 mustang and the sound was great, but didnt hear it before refinish, so i cannot judge..
and i want to buy another vintage, so do you prefer original paint or refinished because its cheaper and the sound isnt that changed?

Post by **Hurb** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:32 pm

suck a fat cock!

More Cowbell · Post by **More Cowbell** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:36 pm

JUST KIDDING???

Post by **Hurb** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:36 pm

More Cowbell wrote:JUST KIDDING???

Aug · Post by **Aug** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:44 pm

must be the sheer *rarity* of a 100% original guitar is all I can figure.

You can buy a 1968 Plymouth Satellite for $4000, tear it down and rebuild it as a '68 Plymouth Roadrunner, add all the modern updates and frills and take it auction and get $40,000 for it. Do that to any vintage guitar and you'll get laughed out of the auction.

mezzio13 · Post by **mezzio13** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:20 pm

Speaking of which when you selling me yours?

downer · Post by **downer** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:56 pm

so its bullshit, that the refinishing affects the sound?
i mean when you use the same type, for example nitro, it should be the same, shouldnt it?

dodgedartdave · Post by **dodgedartdave** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:11 pm

Aug wrote:must be the sheer *rarity* of a 100% original guitar is all I can figure.

You can buy a 1968 Plymouth Satellite for $4000, tear it down and rebuild it as a '68 Plymouth Roadrunner, add all the modern updates and frills and take it auction and get $40,000 for it. Do that to any vintage guitar and you'll get laughed out of the auction.

apples and oranges.

Post by **Doog** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:16 pm

You'd definately get laughed out of the auction if you tried to sell upgraded fruit.

Aug · Post by **Aug** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:40 pm

downer wrote:so its bullshit, that the refinishing affects the sound?
i mean when you use the same type, for example nitro, it should be the same, shouldnt it?

personally, I don't think the finish affects the sound of the guitar at all...some would dispute that, but the difference would be so minute that not even Mozart himself would be able to tell the difference.

Aug · Post by **Aug** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:42 pm

dodgedartdave wrote:
Aug wrote:must be the sheer *rarity* of a 100% original guitar is all I can figure.

You can buy a 1968 Plymouth Satellite for $4000, tear it down and rebuild it as a '68 Plymouth Roadrunner, add all the modern updates and frills and take it auction and get $40,000 for it. Do that to any vintage guitar and you'll get laughed out of the auction.
apples and oranges.

that's the point I was kinda going for. Houses, cars, motorcycles, etc...can be "restored and/or modernized" and the value increases, but not with geetars. (And, yes, I'm fully aware that there are other things out there that would depreciate as well.)

NickD · Post by **NickD** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:49 pm

Aug, agreed. I think its an 'antique' thing. Applys to furniture, pottery etc as well as guitars.

mezzio13 · Post by **mezzio13** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:17 pm

Troy Trepanion took a run of the mill 67 Ford Mustang (Properly restored worth maybe $20k) stripped it, put a 500hp crate motor from FoMoCo in it, gutted the trunk compartment to fit the larger tires/lower quadra-link suspension, modern safety & paint..... $125k.

Troy Mezzio took a run of the mill '78 Fender Mustang (Properly restored worth maybe $800), put Lace Sensors in it, new mint PG, modern switched & pot.... $quat.

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:54 pm

Squat? I think you could still get a decent amount for it.

I know that if you replace a windshield in a car it can break a seal that affect the structure of the car somehow. Isn't that right? It is possible that the aged nitro could affect the tone, but it's really all about busting the cherry. Let's allow people their myths if it makes us money, but otherwise let's take advantage of the good deal and not worry about it. How do we know for certain that a vintage guitar didn't sit under someone's bed with the neck off? We don't. That could affect the overall integrity more than paint.

People made a big deal about losing the warmth going from vinyl to CD. I NEVER SIT AND LISTEN. To me the difference is completely moot. I hear music in a noisy car or house. I am too busy to ponder my navel like I did in HS. Does my guitar's tone really matter all that much? Does it really? Of course not.