essplain me neck contour letters
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essplain me neck contour letters
Given that the letters C, D, and U are all round at one end, that at least two are flat on two sides (or all three depending on the typeface ), and that all three letters can be shallow or tall, thick or thin, rounded or squared ....
Of a C-shape neck, a D-shape neck, and a U-shape neck, which is the deepest? the shallowest? the flattest on the sides? Heh? Is one deep yet sort of squared-off? Is one practically a semicircle? What if I want a Q-shaped neck? With umlauts? Spill it.
Of a C-shape neck, a D-shape neck, and a U-shape neck, which is the deepest? the shallowest? the flattest on the sides? Heh? Is one deep yet sort of squared-off? Is one practically a semicircle? What if I want a Q-shaped neck? With umlauts? Spill it.
Hah.... I looked around the intro nets, and it turns out the whole letter-of-alphabet-shaped-neck-profile business is all talk -- nobody knows which one's which.
Some people say a C-shaped neck is shallow and flat while the D is "oval" shaped, and others say the D is shallow/flat and the C is deep/round. Some have the U neck deep and flat with rounded "corners", some would have the round part of the U on the floor-facing edge of the neck and squared off on the other edge.
Warmoth doesn't even bother with letters, and I don't blame them.
This guy provides illustrations of his version, like so:
C shape
V shape
D shape
U shape
Some people say a C-shaped neck is shallow and flat while the D is "oval" shaped, and others say the D is shallow/flat and the C is deep/round. Some have the U neck deep and flat with rounded "corners", some would have the round part of the U on the floor-facing edge of the neck and squared off on the other edge.
Warmoth doesn't even bother with letters, and I don't blame them.
This guy provides illustrations of his version, like so:
C shape
V shape
D shape
U shape
nice tread
Profiles: A "C," "U," or "V?"
Neck profile (the "shape" of the neck) is probably the most personal element of a guitar. It affects how your hand and fingers "fit" the neck and how easily you can move from fret to fret. From early on acoustic guitars employed some variation of a "C" shape. Electric guitar makers have experimented extensively and a variety of profiles have evolved with the preferences of players. Jeff Beck's favorite Fender Stratocasters had a very fat "C" shape; current models of Fender's Custom Artist Jeff Beck Signature Strat have a smaller "C" to be more player-friendly.
Similar to the "C" is the oval neck profile. This offers a less pronounced curve at the back and has its followers. On the other side is the "U" - an almost-rectangular shape that appeared on many Fenders - perhaps best for players with long fingers. And Eric Clapton has favored a "V" neck that provides a comfortable groove down the middle. A variation on this is the "inverted V," that is thicker on the bass side and thinner on the treble side.
Width is as much a factor in the neck profile as shape, leading some guitar makers to abandon the letter analogy and begin describing profiles as "wide-fat" or "regular-thin" and so on, in which widths are "wide, regular or narrow" and depths range from "fat to regular to thin." This often provides a clearer description of the profile and can help you when you're shopping for guitars online. Parker and Paul Reed Smith use these types of descriptions.
Source : http://www.sweetwater.com/shop/guitars/ ... -guide.php
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i posted about the profiles on other topic
http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12108
Again
wizzard 2
Gonna Add few others picks :
My gritante neck its Wizzard 2 !!! Amazing thin C/D Shape very thin
Another profile Shem
.
http://www.21frets.com/neck_profiles.html
here ,filtercap wrote:Given that the letters C, D, and U are all round at one end, that at least two are flat on two sides (or all three depending on the typeface ), and that all three letters can be shallow or tall, thick or thin, rounded or squared ....
Of a C-shape neck, a D-shape neck, and a U-shape neck, which is the deepest? the shallowest? the flattest on the sides? Heh? Is one deep yet sort of squared-off? Is one practically a semicircle? What if I want a Q-shaped neck? With umlauts? Spill it.
Profiles: A "C," "U," or "V?"
Neck profile (the "shape" of the neck) is probably the most personal element of a guitar. It affects how your hand and fingers "fit" the neck and how easily you can move from fret to fret. From early on acoustic guitars employed some variation of a "C" shape. Electric guitar makers have experimented extensively and a variety of profiles have evolved with the preferences of players. Jeff Beck's favorite Fender Stratocasters had a very fat "C" shape; current models of Fender's Custom Artist Jeff Beck Signature Strat have a smaller "C" to be more player-friendly.
Similar to the "C" is the oval neck profile. This offers a less pronounced curve at the back and has its followers. On the other side is the "U" - an almost-rectangular shape that appeared on many Fenders - perhaps best for players with long fingers. And Eric Clapton has favored a "V" neck that provides a comfortable groove down the middle. A variation on this is the "inverted V," that is thicker on the bass side and thinner on the treble side.
Width is as much a factor in the neck profile as shape, leading some guitar makers to abandon the letter analogy and begin describing profiles as "wide-fat" or "regular-thin" and so on, in which widths are "wide, regular or narrow" and depths range from "fat to regular to thin." This often provides a clearer description of the profile and can help you when you're shopping for guitars online. Parker and Paul Reed Smith use these types of descriptions.
Source : http://www.sweetwater.com/shop/guitars/ ... -guide.php
More about .....
i posted about the profiles on other topic
http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12108
Again
wizzard 2
Gonna Add few others picks :
My gritante neck its Wizzard 2 !!! Amazing thin C/D Shape very thin
Another profile Shem
.
http://www.21frets.com/neck_profiles.html
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post some thing helps instead flame me asswholeMalik wrote:Ignore Icey, I think your diagrams sum it up just fine, without confusing the fuck out of yourself.
V is rounded with a slight point, C is more rounded, D sticks out more, U sticks out even more.
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Shut up Icey.
The only way to tell the difference is to play.
I'd recommend playing a Telecaster Standard (that's your C neck) and then a Telecaster Deluxe (that's your 70's U neck which was the Strat 70's profile too). As for V's you'll have to hunt out a 50's RI or that lame Clapton Strat.
You'll only know what works when you play it.
The only way to tell the difference is to play.
I'd recommend playing a Telecaster Standard (that's your C neck) and then a Telecaster Deluxe (that's your 70's U neck which was the Strat 70's profile too). As for V's you'll have to hunt out a 50's RI or that lame Clapton Strat.
You'll only know what works when you play it.
I like the Icey diagrams just fine, esp. because I was having a hard time finding any that used the letters. The diagrams do show how little agreement there is -- even among manufacturers -- on which letter goes with which profile though.
So it sounds like around Shortscale anyway, C is the roundest profile, V is a pointier version of C, D has some shoulders to it, and U is a deeper, squarer version of D.
My favorite neck is on my '78 Musicmaster. That's probably a C, it's pretty round-n-chunky, but doesn't seem squared-off at all. My 90's Stratocaster is great, but I don't like the neck profile that much. It's probably a D -- thinner and flatter. Unless it's a "thin C" or something.
I'll saw the necks in half tonight and take some pictures.
So it sounds like around Shortscale anyway, C is the roundest profile, V is a pointier version of C, D has some shoulders to it, and U is a deeper, squarer version of D.
My favorite neck is on my '78 Musicmaster. That's probably a C, it's pretty round-n-chunky, but doesn't seem squared-off at all. My 90's Stratocaster is great, but I don't like the neck profile that much. It's probably a D -- thinner and flatter. Unless it's a "thin C" or something.
I'll saw the necks in half tonight and take some pictures.
i played an old acoustic quite some time ago at a guitar store. the thing was probably from the '30s or '40s and it realy had a 'v' neck. the back actually came to a point, not rounded off like the modern ones. it was actually quite nice to play on, surprisingly. and the old gibson mandolins have the same thing
Maybe the V makes a skinny-necked instrument like a mando easier to position one's hand on? I'd like to try a more V-shaped guitar neck sometime.
I used to think this Musicmaster was a pain to play bar(re) chords on due to the thick neck. Now I like the neck better and find thinner necks more fatiguing. It could be that my grip has relaxed a lot since then too.
I used to think this Musicmaster was a pain to play bar(re) chords on due to the thick neck. Now I like the neck better and find thinner necks more fatiguing. It could be that my grip has relaxed a lot since then too.
V neck feel is very different , played on eric clapton strat at an store
and wow its notable different .....
C is just classic short-scales are Thin C , D is modern i love thin necks Wizzard and Wizzard 2 be far my favority D shape , C shape i love Gibson and fender strats 60´s
and wow its notable different .....
C is just classic short-scales are Thin C , D is modern i love thin necks Wizzard and Wizzard 2 be far my favority D shape , C shape i love Gibson and fender strats 60´s
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