Does the wood run top + Updated Cyclone Pic

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:01 am

..to bottom on a guitar headstock? I need to sand it and I dont want to screw it up!

Thx

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:52 am

what do you mean?>
top to bottom?
on most gibbys there is an ebony or ebonized peice of wood, on the top.
on fenders. of course its a solid piece of maple.
what guitar are you thinking of doing it to?

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:51 am

robert(original) wrote:what do you mean?>
top to bottom?
on most gibbys there is an ebony or ebonized peice of wood, on the top.
on fenders. of course its a solid piece of maple.
what guitar are you thinking of doing it to?

Sorry I meant the grain!! Does it run top to bottom as it does in most bodies?

Thx

light rail coyote · Post by **light rail coyote** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:53 am

the best way to see which way the grain runs is to look at the grain and see which way it runs

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:53 pm

you don't want to mess up the grain>?
im still a bit confused.
by sanding off the finish you won't sand off the grain, if thats what you mean. you would need to sand off quit a bit of wood before you noticed a difference in the grain from prior to sanding.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:51 pm

robert(original) wrote:you don't want to mess up the grain>?
im still a bit confused.
by sanding off the finish you won't sand off the grain, if thats what you mean. you would need to sand off quit a bit of wood before you noticed a difference in the grain from prior to sanding.

I'm sanding off a painted headstock, I'm going to be staining it and clearcoating it.
Back when I stripped the Cyclone I read somewhere that when you sand the body you need to go with the grain and not against it cuz it'll scratch the wood, and that it was a fact that most guitar bodies grain runs top to bottom...

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:14 pm

oh, i see, thats bull shit, you will be sanding with at least 320 before clear coating it anyway so you can go any which way your lil heart desires. i never pay attention to that "with the grain" stuff unless its in the thickness sander, but that paper is 40 grit and that shit will sand off your face!
what geeter are you gonna do it to?

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:03 pm

robert(original) wrote:oh, i see, thats bull shit, you will be sanding with at least 320 before clear coating it anyway so you can go any which way your lil heart desires. i never pay attention to that "with the grain" stuff unless its in the thickness sander, but that paper is 40 grit and that shit will sand off your face!
what geeter are you gonna do it to?

So it turns out Jagermeister was right and the conversion neck didnt work for the Cyclone. It will convert a 25 1/2 scale into a 24 3/4 but it is not a true 24 3/4.
Broke and stranded for a neck (try finding a 24 3/4 with a Fender style neck)I look around for a 24 3/4 neck and what do you know, my Squier Musicmaster has one that fits and intonates dead on...

I was thinking of sanding the headstock off, actually the hole thing staining it and clearcoating it, but now I kinda like the way it looks so ill leave it like this for now! In the Summer I probably get it done..

My Cyclone has been out of commission for so long I just had to do it. Its got new pickups, Cloth wiring, and new CTS pots, and a switchcraft jack...

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:05 pm

you were wanting the neck to be a small headstock shape right?
or was it a large headstock shape?

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:33 pm

robert(original) wrote:you were wanting the neck to be a small headstock shape right?
or was it a large headstock shape?

Large! The stock one is like a Jazzy size.

Gavin · Post by **Gavin** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:37 pm

I think the guitar looks great with the blue body and black headstock, I say leave it as is.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:39 pm

the only 24 3/4 fender makes with a large headstock is the one you have on it.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:49 pm

Oh man, I know you've posted that before, but that's SUCH a sweet-looking guitar. Nice job.

I would also leave the headstock... the decals are nice. The black doesn't match, but as Gav says, doesn't look bad either.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:02 pm

Thx guys for the nice comments!!
Now I've got a neckless Musicmaster.... But its all good! I love this guitar!!

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:48 pm

you might be able to use a cyclone neck, cut it off straight, then glue on a paddle type piece and shape out a large headstock.
that might be the end all search for a large stock styled 24 3/4 scale neck.