15w amps

riotshield · Post by **riotshield** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:59 pm

I am looking to get a small amp for home/studio use and gigs in not big places.
I am across some good reviews of some cheap options such as Harley benton ga15 for 114Â£/159â‚¬

which is 15watts with 1x10"
and Blackheart handsome devil for 236Â£/318â‚¬

which is 15watts with 1x12".

For matters of price, size/weight and looks i'm closer to choosing the ga15, and from what i hear blackheart distorts easier at higher volumes something that i dont want but how much difference d'you reckon the bigger speaker of blackheart will make, the bigger size the more bottom end, right?

Also, would I be able to connect the ga15 at two cabinets at the same time? meaning its own cabinet and an extra one possible 1x12"
take a look at the back of it

ps. market of low wattage amps is really getting hot, for our good i guess, since competition is dropping prices.

Post by **Mike** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:09 pm

Looks like the GA15 just has three taps and jacks, for 4, 8 and 16 ohms, Internal speaker is 8 ohms. You could use another but you would have to make a box to split the signal into two jacks in parallel or in series to give you the required funcation.

For example you could plug into the 16 ohm output and then two 8 ohm cabs (including internal speaker) in series or the 4 ohm output and two 8 ohm cabs in parallel. Bear in mind any box should use speaker cable for the interconnect and not guitar cable (signal line and shield). You shouldn't use two outputs on the GA15 itself as those are taps off the transformer itself at various windings, it would be bad, and probably kill the OT.

riotshield · Post by **riotshield** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:15 pm

mhm, thanks for the info.
so, this means that in whatever 2 cabs u use they have to be of the same ohmage? is there a way to connect to 4 or 16ohm cabs at the same time with internal speaker?

SpectralJulian · Post by **SpectralJulian** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:42 am

I want an Orange Tiny terror. I played one on Friday. It ruled.

Post by **Mike** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:50 am

riotshield wrote:mhm, thanks for the info.
so, this means that in whatever 2 cabs u use they have to be of the same ohmage? is there a way to connect to 4 or 16ohm cabs at the same time with internal speaker?

Well you're going to incur a mismatch there which will stress the OT somewhat, if the mismatch is small it should be ok though.

For the two you described:

8 ohm int. // 16 ohm ext = 5.33 ohms -> use the 4 ohm output and a parallel box

8 ohm int + 4 ohm ext = 12 ohms -> use the 16 ohm output and a series box.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:56 pm

super champ

http://www.fender.com/products//search. ... 2331100000

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:59 pm

aparently the amp i just posted doesn't come with a cover or its own footswitch? fuck?

Series Vintage Modified
Type Tube Amplifier with DSP
Output 15 watts (Class "AB")
Ohms 8 ohms
Speakers One 10", 8-ohm Special Design Speaker, p/n 0073858000
Channels Two (Normal and Amp Voice)
Features 15 Watt Tube â€œClass ABâ€� Power Amp.
"Voice" Control with 16 Different Amp Voicings Delivering Various Clean and Overdriven Tones for any Style of Music: Blues, Rock, Country, Jazz, Metal, and More.
16 DSP Effects (Vibratone Slow; Vibratone Fast; Delay 130ms; Delay 300ms; Delay 450ms; Large Room Reverb; Concert Hall Reverb; Classic Fender Spring Reverb; Reverb+Delay; Fast Chorus; Deep Chorus; Chorus+Delay; Chorus+Reverb; Tremolo Low Speed; Tremolo Medium Speed; Tremolo High Speed).
External Speaker Output Allows use with External Speaker Cabinet Line Output.
Strap Handle.
Red Jewel Pilot Light.
Controls Volume 1,
Channel Select Switch,
Gain,
Volume 2,
Voice,
Treble,
Bass,
FX Level,
FX Select
Covering Black Textured Vinyl with Silver Grille Cloth; Chrome Hardware; Blackface Control Panel
Weight 24 lbs (10.9 kg)
Dimensions Height: 15" (38 cm),
Width: 17.5" (45 cm),
Depth: 9" (22.9 cm)
Power Handling N/A
Tube Complement 1-12AX7A
2-6V6
(Diode Rectifier)
Cover Uses Cover, p/n 0041529000, US MSRP $22.50, (Not Included)
Accessories None
Footswitch Uses 2-Button Footswitch for Channel Select F/X On/Off, p/n 0071359000, US MSRP $24.82 (Not Included)
Introduced 10/2007
Notice Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:47 pm

If the super champ was all tube, without those nasty electronics it would be cool

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:53 pm

it is all tube isn't it? i mean theres a fucking switch you can turn the dsp on and off with. just dont turn it on

Post by **Mike** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:07 pm

robroe wrote:it is all tube isn't it? i mean theres a fucking switch you can turn the dsp on and off with. just dont turn it on

Nope. The preamp is solid-state, which means all the overdrive is solid state. It's sucks.

The Champ has a tube power amp and phase inverter, the Vibro just a tube power amp because it's single-ended.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:13 pm

thats the opposite of my amp. my amp has solid clean and tube overdrive. wtf

Post by **Mike** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:23 pm

I know. Fender are fucking idiots.

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:06 pm

I mean who needs all those fu*king effects if they can get pedals, the amp must provide a nice warm sound, by tubes..
maybe some reverb..
It would be awesome a amp like 15w(or 5w.. no biggy), all tube (preamp and amp), reverb lil bit (haha), gain/volume switch.. maybe treble/bass..
I would buy that for 100%.. totally.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:25 pm

were the old bronco amps wired the same way? the 8w ones

how much are those now? like 20 bucks?

Post by **Mike** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:37 pm

robroe wrote:were the old bronco amps wired the same way? the 8w ones

how much are those now? like 20 bucks?

I think so.

izodiak · Post by **izodiak** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:47 pm

robroe wrote:were the old bronco amps wired the same way?

this is a great amp, but its solid state..
I would love the same with tuuubes.
okey, I found one -
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-FENDER-BRON ... dZViewItem
thats nice.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:32 pm

Post by **dots** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:05 pm

Mr Mustache · Post by **Mr Mustache** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:03 pm

^^pro junior??