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Seymour Duncan P-Rail

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It's basically a P90 and a vintage strat pickup side-by-side in a humbucker casing. They can be used individually or combined into one MASSIVE 18k motherbucker- 3 sounds in one pickup!

Thoughts? I like it - would make a 1 pickup guitar (Les Paul Jr, Squier 51) damn versatile.
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Hmm, this could actually be the perfect pickup for my Squier Musicmaster project.
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WOW! That looks really cool.
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Demo vid:

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Not that useful as he's not playing clean - but yeh awesome idea. I'd love to stick one in a jagstang - put those bloody annoying selector switches to good use.
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The fact they're using a gainy tone makes it seem like they're trying to cover it up a little- pickups don't sound as different when driven through the same pedal/amp as they do when running clean.

But I really really like the idea, I may be tempted to pick one.
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I think you can make out the sounds pretty well even though he's not playing clean. I'm really impressed. Those "rail" sounds sound really good. I would love to see a clean demo though.
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Post by analogsystem »

that's a REALLY cool pickup as long as it's under $120 or so.....

I did a similar thing in my jazzmaster by putting a p90 in the bridge, and RWRP jazzmaster pup in the neck. I have it wired in series or parallel so there's 2 good really different usable sounds that both are hum canceling. I can also rock each pup solo for true single coil spank.

Of course with these Duncans, one could do the same thing twice in one guitar.....that's a lot of switches to keep track of though....
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yeh the gainy tone makes me suspicous - fact is he plays 3 different guitars at the start with 3 sets of pickups, and they all sound the SAME through that amp - just varying output levels. The he does the same with the p-rail and again, same sound but different output. That is NOT a good video to compare tones...

Actually one person has got a preview pair on HC - also someone from Seymour Duncan has posted there about it. Basically it's VERY tall because the strat rail pickup needed to be wound downwards, to accomodate the P90 - so tall that your guitar may need deeper routing. oops!
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There is definitely a difference in the "rail" sound compared to the other two mate, if you can't hear it then you must have bad ears. I do think the "p90" and "humbucker" sounds sound same-ish though.
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Post by analogsystem »

I agree, the overdriven tone he uses showcases the pups fine. I can hear all the differences.

I think this pup is a great idea, even if was just a humbucker made up of a alnico strat single and a p90 it'd be rad. The splitting stuff is basically icing on the cake. I just hope its not expensive.

If it's really deep you can always shim the neck and raise the bridge on a Fender.
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I'm super excited about this.
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Post by James »

There isn't enough innovation in the guitar industry. There should be more products like this.

The video doen't show much. The guy should be playing clean and dirty, mostly clean. And he shouldn't be playing so many notes.

The main plus, is that it looks like it will fit under a robroe.
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Post by Will »

It's 18k - I don't think it can go clean. When I had 13k HBs in my 335, it would distort everything I plugged it into, even pedals.
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DuoSonicBoy wrote:It's 18k - I don't think it can go clean. When I had 13k HBs in my 335, it would distort everything I plugged it into, even pedals.
the pickup is rated:

Strat vintage rail: 8k
P90: 10k
Series humbucker: 18k

The strat pickup on its own should be pretty clean. It's weird he uses such a bright amp with so much presence - maybe it sounded too dark in that guitar?
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aphasiac wrote:
DuoSonicBoy wrote:It's 18k - I don't think it can go clean. When I had 13k HBs in my 335, it would distort everything I plugged it into, even pedals.
the pickup is rated:

Strat vintage rail: 8k
P90: 10k
Series humbucker: 18k

The strat pickup on its own should be pretty clean. It's weird he uses such a bright amp with so much presence - maybe it sounded too dark in that guitar?
OUCH - that's still really hot. I was thinking about building one of these from spare parts, I think I was gonna do 4K and 7k.
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10K is pretty hot for a P90 even, let alone 8k for a Strat pickup.
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Post by mewithoutus »

that guy weirds me out when he talks.

i think it sounds pretty cool. its a great idea, but i think it looks kinda ugly. it seems like it has a lot of bottom end.
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euan wrote:10K is pretty hot for a P90 even, let alone 8k for a Strat pickup.
yea I know, aren't strat pickups usually about 5k and p90s about 8k? what are PAFs, like 8-10k? I understand that they wanted to make it more usable than your average coil-cut humby but it's still a bit much on the hot side.
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Post by kim »

dammit, i think i kinda need this !

but why is it fucking humbucker sized ? do single coil sized instead.
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Post by jcyphe »

That's one goofy looking pickup/s. That demo was asscheeks.