the neverending shit i missed on Ebay thread

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:31 pm

Nick wrote: How do you know Jcyphe doesn't put delivery confirmation on his packages when he ships to the US? Sellers are protected if they ship to the US and get delivery confirmation. They're not protected at all with USPS if they ship overseas. How is it stereotyping if it's just not taking risks?

Because if you provide tracking to Paypal you're off the hook, doesn't matter where you ship to!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:31 pm

Well, good for you, but if you look up Italy's customs on usps.com you'll see that they don't allow importation of "bells and other musical instruments"

Don't make this into another pointless argument Dave. Just because you choose to take risks with big money (maybe you can afford to?) doesn't mean the rest of us all should. I like to think the majority of humanity is honest, but why take an unnecessary risk with no protection? When you just throw away $250 because someone files an unsent item and you never see your pedal/guitar again, then come talk to me.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:32 pm

tribi9 wrote:
Because if you provide tracking to Paypal you're off the hook, doesn't matter where you ship to!

USPS doesn't provide tracking. There's NO way to get tracking on international orders unless you ship UPS/FEDEX/DHL. And those methods are usually over twice as much than USPS for packages

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:39 pm

I got a package that I received yesterday, it was sent through USPS and it came with tracking.... Copied and pasted from my inbox!!

Shipping Status Your Order Frenzel Tube Amps

Order No. 8028

Date: 4/30/08

Your amp is finished and will ship today.

The USPS Express shipment tracker number is EB 444508716 US

You can track your order via USPS on-line tracking service at http://www.usps.com/shipping/trackandconfirm.htm?from=global&page=0035trackandconfirm

Please note that it may take up to 24 hours once your order has shipped for tracking information to become available on-line.

The large power tubes were removed for shipment. There is a tube location chart on the chassis of the amp. Please take care when re-inserting the tubes.....the sockets are new and tight.

If you have any questions please reply to this email or email us at info@frenzeltubeamps.com

We appreciate your business, and look forward to serving you in the future! Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

Best regards,

Jim Frenzel

Frenzel Tube Amplifiers

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:49 pm

might be different to Canada, but when they ship packages to most countries, it's out of USPS's hands and into the next country's postal service. I'll ask my post office next time I'm there if they've changed tracking policy at all, but at the time my incident happened (about 2 years ago), I was totally SOL if I sent USPS.

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:57 pm

USPS and UPS deliver to Canada basically with all the same rules as the USA. This guy is talking out his ass. I know a lot of people who have been burned shipping musical gear to Europe and Asia in particular. PayPal is a joke, they only protect the purchaser, in fact dishonest buyers have abused this fact to get refunds that were unwarranted from PayPal.

I didn't stereotype anybody, stop making assumptions.

and Dave hop off my nutz.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Thu May 08, 2008 5:06 pm

jcyphe wrote: I didn't stereotype anybody, stop making assumptions.

jcyphe wrote:
Also I've never lost anything in international shipping because I never bothered to do it on guitar stuff, so I guess I'm not a n00b. I'm a guy with all my stuff that didn't lose anything to thieving assholes.

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Thu May 08, 2008 5:12 pm

tribi9 wrote:
jcyphe wrote: I didn't stereotype anybody, stop making assumptions.

jcyphe wrote:
Also I've never lost anything in international shipping because I never bothered to do it on guitar stuff, so I guess I'm not a n00b. I'm a guy with all my stuff that didn't lose anything to thieving assholes.

Where is the stereotype? seems like you're getting ahead of yourself. Thank you for proving my point.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Thu May 08, 2008 5:22 pm

jcyphe wrote:
tribi9 wrote:
jcyphe wrote: I didn't stereotype anybody, stop making assumptions.

jcyphe wrote:
Also I've never lost anything in international shipping because I never bothered to do it on guitar stuff, so I guess I'm not a n00b. I'm a guy with all my stuff that didn't lose anything to thieving assholes.

Where is the stereotype? seems like you're getting ahead of yourself. Thank you for proving my point.

How much clearer do you want it? Do you want blinking lights around it???

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Thu May 08, 2008 5:29 pm

You need to take a reading class, holmes.

dodgedartdave · Post by **dodgedartdave** » Thu May 08, 2008 5:30 pm

Nick wrote:Well, good for you, but if you look up Italy's customs on usps.com you'll see that they don't allow importation of "bells and other musical instruments"

Don't make this into another pointless argument Dave. Just because you choose to take risks with big money (maybe you can afford to?) doesn't mean the rest of us all should. I like to think the majority of humanity is honest, but why take an unnecessary risk with no protection? When you just throw away $250 because someone files an unsent item and you never see your pedal/guitar again, then come talk to me.

I'm not trying to make a pointless argument. I'm just stating my experience. Maybe it's just the vague way that I fill out the customs form that works.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu May 08, 2008 5:54 pm

Trib9, did Joe say everyone buying internationally is a theiving asshole? There's theiving assholes in the US too, plenty of them, but you can get delivery confirmation in the US, and apparently Canada as well, which protects you against them.....

There is no point in taking a risk with big money like that, unless you know who you're dealing with. No matter who you're dealing with on ebay, they're usually a stranger. Would you trust a total stranger finding your wallet and expect they'll keep the cash in it intact? Why trust them with hundreds of dollars when you can't have any protection

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu May 08, 2008 8:06 pm

jcyphe wrote:
dodgedartdave wrote:
You sell stuff on eBay? I didn't know that...
Not as much lately, eBay policy changes suck ass.

Could you elaborate?
I've done well on ebay for a while and plan on doing a bit more.

James · Post by **James** » Thu May 08, 2008 8:23 pm

Fran wrote:
jcyphe wrote:
dodgedartdave wrote:
You sell stuff on eBay? I didn't know that...
Not as much lately, eBay policy changes suck ass.
Could you elaborate?
I've done well on ebay for a while and plan on doing a bit more.

He might mean this.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Thu May 08, 2008 8:53 pm

tribi9 wrote:
jcyphe wrote:
tribi9 wrote:
Where is the stereotype? seems like you're getting ahead of yourself. Thank you for proving my point.
How much clearer do you want it? Do you want blinking lights around it???

the logic here is mind-boggling.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu May 08, 2008 8:55 pm

James wrote:
Fran wrote:
jcyphe wrote: Not as much lately, eBay policy changes suck ass.
Could you elaborate?
I've done well on ebay for a while and plan on doing a bit more.
He might mean this.

Thanks. I'll read it tomorrow when it looks less boring

arcadedave · Post by **arcadedave** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:06 pm

Never seen one in this colour before.

Thats what she said.

aphasiac · Post by **aphasiac** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:24 pm

Fran wrote: Could you elaborate?
I've done well on ebay for a while and plan on doing a bit more.

He probably meant this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7228460.stm

It's crazy - ive had some terrible buyers, actually one recently threatened me with legal action over somne scratches on a game disc! Finally turned out he'd bought the wrong game and was trying to get his money back - totally deserved to be neg-ed.

luke · Post by **luke** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:58 pm

I don't get the big issue. I'm fed up of making my payment within minutes of winning the auction, and having to wait until I give my feedback before the seller gives me his. After I've paid for the item, my end of the deal is done, if he gets the money, why doesn't he trust me to give me positive? They're all afraid that I'll somehow give them negative and they'll have to respond to that. Now that trust isn't there, negative feedback is just pointless. I see so much of

"Item was damaged, seller didn't answer emails for weeks, terrible seller"
"Buyer didn't try to contact me, it's his fault"

It's like, what the hell?

TheBurbz · Post by **TheBurbz** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:32 pm

Good news, Ebay have just changed their terms so that a buyer cannot receive negative feedback from a seller if it is retaliation to negative feedback left for themselves.