MIM Jazzmaster. It's here.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:16 pm

timhulio wrote:I think the mexican ones r good. Any lefties?

don't hold your breath. the only lefties coming out of the ensenada factory are standard strats.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:20 pm

Malik wrote:Well it just seems like it's now very similar to a Mustang bridge, and Mustang bridges don't buzz.

Lol, your joking right? And yes the irony. "I like the traditional Jag, it works great with a mustang bridge"

luke · Post by **luke** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:37 pm

Fran wrote:
Malik wrote:Well it just seems like it's now very similar to a Mustang bridge, and Mustang bridges don't buzz.
Lol, your joking right? And yes the irony. "I like the traditional Jag, it works great with a mustang bridge"

I meant Mustang trem, my apologies. My Jag-Stang doesn't buzz at all, because it has a short distance to the bridge and the strings fit into the bridge. Now these new Jaguars have slots that fit the strings perfectly and the strings are bent right over them a short distance, it seems like there'd be no buzz? Sorry for making it seem like I'm so certain of that, I just don't see why Fender would've left it like that, these things seem really well thought out.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:27 pm

i agree with malik. my old jag had the adjust-o-matic and didn't buzz at all. i imagine the increased angle will make things even better.
even though i love my current jag more than anything, i still miss that guitar. i hope sublimedo is treating him well.

Sublimedo · Post by **Sublimedo** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:34 am

He's certainly being treated well. He's in pretty much the same shape you gave him in. I just HAD to add some 13s to it, though. Just feels right for shortscales, personally.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Fri May 09, 2008 3:45 pm

i used to put d'addario chromes on that guitar every now and then. i think flatwounds are the only way i can stand heavy gauge strings.
but to me, shortscales need small strings. big strings on a little neck interferes with my logic.

purplehaze19x · Post by **purplehaze19x** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:46 pm

Hmmmm, It seems Musicians Friend has pulled the listings for the Jags and Jazzy's. I wonder whats up?,.....

luke · Post by **luke** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:15 am

purplehaze19x wrote:Hmmmm, It seems Musicians Friend has pulled the listings for the Jags and Jazzy's. I wonder whats up?,.....

Jazzmaster
Jag HH
Jag

So yeah, Guitar Center have now added them all to their site. I'm guessing MF jumped the gun, but now GC has them too, who knows?

aphasiac · Post by **aphasiac** » Sat May 10, 2008 9:37 am

what is this buzz of which you speak?

ive owned 2 jaguars and never had any rattles or buzzes behind the bridge. weak pickups yeh, no sustain yeh, but these guitars solve those problems too. nice one fender.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sat May 10, 2008 7:24 pm

aphasiac wrote:weak pickups

You mean the famously quite hot, pretty much overwound strat, pickups?

Find some of the OSG attitude a bit sad really - a guitar that a fair few of us like because musicians we love (Mascis, SY et al) were able to afford them when everyone else was all corksniffy about superstrats/LPs suddenly becoming a corksniffers guitar. But hey... For what it's worth, I like the trem where it is, and would buy a MIJ/AVRI if I was buying again, but choice is a good thing.

aphasiac · Post by **aphasiac** » Sat May 10, 2008 9:55 pm

benecol wrote: You mean the famously quite hot, pretty much overwound strat, pickups?

ok weak as in rattley and trebly (and not in a nice musical way). + microphonic squeal central.

seriously, ive played alot of guitars and those were the worst pickups ive ever used.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Sun May 11, 2008 3:44 am

Malik wrote:
purplehaze19x wrote:Hmmmm, It seems Musicians Friend has pulled the listings for the Jags and Jazzy's. I wonder whats up?,.....
Jazzmaster
Jag HH
Jag

So yeah, Guitar Center have now added them all to their site. I'm guessing MF jumped the gun, but now GC has them too, who knows?

and now they're gone from guitar center too..... hmm, this is starting to get really weird. are they purposely "leaking" info about this guitar to try to create a buzz? were they trying to gauge the response?

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Sun May 11, 2008 5:57 am

they watch sites like this one and offset to see what people are saying and what they are thinknig becuz in the end we will be the ones the tell noobs what to get and whats right and wrong.
not really.
but its a cool elitist thought.

mewithoutus · Post by **mewithoutus** » Sun May 11, 2008 10:48 am

holy shit, fender made a fake mexican jazzmaster to see how people would react. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

they are probably cryin cuz of the asshats at offsetdicks.com made fun of the tremolo.

westtexasred · Post by **westtexasred** » Sun May 11, 2008 7:12 pm

I heard that they're being released at Summer NAMM.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:07 pm

A lot of young players buy Jaguars because they've seen me live or on the intranetz. True story.

Jagermeister · Post by **Jagermeister** » Mon May 12, 2008 4:29 pm

aphasiac wrote:
ok weak as in rattley and trebly (and not in a nice musical way). + microphonic squeal central.

seriously, ive played alot of guitars and those were the worst pickups ive ever used.

...The pickups are basically the same as strat pups. Diss them, you diss strat pups. Except that they have that claw which makes things sound fatter. And they have 1 meg pots for extra tonal range.

(But it's ok if you're just talking about stock Jap pickups)

It bugs me that Fender is legitimizing the complaints of all the people who had problems with these just because they couldn't set them up properly. The Jag/JM did a fine job of sounding like a Jag/JM and working properly without those mods. Really the TOM is the only thing that seriously bugs me though.

aphasiac · Post by **aphasiac** » Mon May 12, 2008 10:34 pm

Jagermeister wrote: (But it's ok if you're just talking about stock Jap pickups)

yeh i'm not talking about jag pickups in general - vintage or good modern ones sound fantastic. i LOVE the jaguar sound.

I was specifically talking about the japanese reissue pickups - they were awful - serious microphonic feedback problems, alot worse than any strat. Also the bridge pickup on its own was all stratchy and weak and horrid - i hated it. did NOT sound like any strat i ever played. im amazed its taken this long for Fender to redesign them.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Tue May 13, 2008 12:13 am

Jagermeister wrote:It bugs me that Fender is legitimizing the complaints of all the people who had problems with these just because they couldn't set them up properly. The Jag/JM did a fine job of sounding like a Jag/JM and working properly without those mods. Really the TOM is the only thing that seriously bugs me though.

fender is in the business of selling guitars. if a lot of people complain because the guitar is difficult to set up then that's a legitimate issue they should address to sell more guitars.

Post by **Mike** » Tue May 13, 2008 12:56 pm

FDP wrote:My Jag arrived today and all I can say is, WOW!

I mean I've had several MIM Fenders and they were all well built, with mostly good finish work, but this one is flawless.

First thing that struck me was the perfect tint job on an almost perfect piece of maple. The neck is incredible. Plus it's built vintage style with a slab fretboard and no skunk stripe or head plug. Frets look like jumbos to me. It's a smooth playing guitar.

Right away I plugged into my SFPR and got some incredible clean sounds. It's going to take a while to figure out the controls, (there are several differences to a standard Jaguar), but I really like what I've heard so far. The case candy bag did have the correct tremolo bar but contained the basic Fender owners manual, which is useless with this guitar. I can't wait until Fender posts the owners manual on their website.

What I can tell so far is that the volume and tone knobs are masters, the three switches are (front to rear) neck pu on/off, bridge pu on/off, and a tone cap on/off. The upper slider switch is an overall kill switch for the output, and the roller pots seem to be variable coil taps, one for each p/u. I'm telling you, in just the 45 minutes I played this guitar I can tell there are a large number of sweet sounds waiting to be discovered.

BTW, on the Musicians Friend receipt, this guitar is called just Classic Jaguar Special HH. The word player isn't there. No custom shop designed neckplate as Mfitz reported.

I took a quick picture of the body, but the quality of the pic is not to my liking. But I'll be honest here, I need to post this quickly and get back to playing. This guitar is that good!

I'll post a better pic and do a full review in a week or so.

FDP wrote:Pickups on the Jazzmaster sound great; a little bit more aggressive sounding than the CIJ pickups. The frets indeed appear to be medium jumbos. Pic is below!