Dunlop JH-F1 "Hendrix" Fuzz Face - Whoa!
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Well, that's got little to do with it.Mike wrote:A simple tone control and a Multiple FX setup are worlds apart. Well done with the Rhetoric though, impressive, specially that parting shot, Classy. Considering Doog probably blows you out of the water musically you might want to chill your boots.
My point was that often times the best stuff is born out of the limitations of your tools. Not just true in music, but in most artistic endeavors. With unlimited tools it can be near impossible to settle down & start doing good work. I started this thread to give props to how well this pedal works for me. I'd picked it up to flip as the price was silly-low. Turned out to be a MUCH better fuzz than I'd expected and even prompted me to let go of some other, more flexible Fuzz Face based pedals (FGII, as mentioned above & 2 Headed Monsterpiece w/ 6 pairs of transistors to choose from & external bias control). At the end of the day, this one sounds better. Any discussion of EQ seems to miss the point of the thing and be asking some something entirely different, which is certainly fine but has little bearing on the JH-F1. Ya' dig?
I swear it may seem like it, but I'm not trying to be a prick here. Just feels like I started a thread saying, "I love oranges" and folks came in saying, "Yeah, but this orange sucks for not tasting anything like a Banana!" And really, why diss me as a musician? I think I'm quite good!
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Because you dropped the cardinal sin of posting about gear, you said it was "musically" good. What the fuck ever, mate, you might aswell have said it had "tone" or that the Carling DPDT made a difference to the Sustain.drasp wrote:And really, why diss me as a musician? I think I'm quite good!
Everyone has ears, everyone has opinions, and we'll all different, which is fandabbydozy. Personally I'm not a fan of fuzz, much less one without a tone control, seeing as fuzz can very often get harsh and nasty in the high end, depending on the clipping arrangement. I'm building a Fuzz clone for Hurb and we're modding the original single tone control into a bass and treble (at Hurb's request I might add) for more control over the sound, is this suddenly not a musical pedal?
I wasn't suggesting that fuzz pedals shouldn't have tone controls. Or even that folks shouldn't be happy with multiFX or rack gear. Simply that the whole point of the Dunlop JH-F1 pedal existing is to be a faithful replica of a pedal this is now way to expensive for any normal working stiff to get their hands on. It's like a CIJ/MIJ re-issue of a classic Fender. I'll never have the dough to drop on a '60s Tele, but I'm glad I've got a faithful replica that gives me the general idea of what an original might've been like. To judge this pedal as anything other than a faithful replica or kick-ass simple Fuzz is wrong. That was my point, I guess.Mike wrote:s this suddenly not a musical pedal?
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I don't think anyone was remotely doing that. I made it clear multiple times I was referring to pedal design (and modern pedal design) in general as opposed to your pedal in particular, I would say that diversifying conversation is the true lifeblood of shortscale, rather than anything to do with Shortscale guitars, it might be from whence the site sprung, but there are many here that have never owned (and intend never to own) shortscale guitars, some that don't even play guitars - and some that found the site through our Demo videos rather than any Fender guitar affiliation.
It was also funny you allude to us being there with racks and multi-FX. Doog and I are anything but overly complicated in our setups. He uses an amp and a modest pedal board with one main dirt source, I use a 2 channels on my amplifier and a tuner. Recently I threw the Orange Peel out there. CRAZY.
It was also funny you allude to us being there with racks and multi-FX. Doog and I are anything but overly complicated in our setups. He uses an amp and a modest pedal board with one main dirt source, I use a 2 channels on my amplifier and a tuner. Recently I threw the Orange Peel out there. CRAZY.
The reason I'd want a tone control on my fuzz box is so that I can make music. I'm not "anti old design" or anything at all, I just don't want my fuzztone to pierce ears in a live setting. Y'know, playing live? Like musicians who make music do?drasp wrote:If you follow the logic of wanting a tone stack added to a Si Fuzz Face, you're probably best served by one of those huge foot controller multi-FX deals with multiple treadles and 12x pads you can assign with your PC and midi and stuff into a monster-rack. I'll keep my 'older, simpler designs'. They seem better suited to making music.
Like Mike said- tweaking a pedal slightly tonally to suit your setup is hardly a MONSTER RACK sort of request. Do you use the EQ on your amp? Yes? YOU BETTER BUY SOME RACKMOUNT 32 BAND EQ UNITS!!
i can always appreciate an older design or a repro of it no matter how limiting they may be. Some effects pedals are inherently inflexible and that may be an aspect some may enjoy out of them.
Theres fuzzes out there with an EQ but a Fuzz face ain't and probably shouldnt be one of em. but hey dialing in the fuzz knob just right may give an attractive balance.
Theres fuzzes out there with an EQ but a Fuzz face ain't and probably shouldnt be one of em. but hey dialing in the fuzz knob just right may give an attractive balance.
Okay - I wouldn't necessarily call this a "sample". I get a few hours alone in the house each Tuesday night as the Mrs. is working on her Masters and my son stays at his grandparents. I usually spend the whole time playing with loops on my DL4. Decided for the first time tonight that I ought to whip out my digital camera and see how it's onboard mic would handle some guitar sounds. SO - I nervously post my first playing online. It's frantic, repetitive & not very well recorded. I guess this is what it sounds like as I decompress from a stressful day @ a job I'm not really enjoying lately:
~7mb, 5:00min .mp3
[stream]http://delaraspelle.com/music/fuzzface_wank.mp3[/stream]
Be gentle.![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
Oh, for those who care, it's my Tele into the Fuzz Face into a DL4 into my HIWATT. At the beginning & end I step on my tuner so's ya' get a little taste of the radio interference.
~7mb, 5:00min .mp3
[stream]http://delaraspelle.com/music/fuzzface_wank.mp3[/stream]
Be gentle.
![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
Oh, for those who care, it's my Tele into the Fuzz Face into a DL4 into my HIWATT. At the beginning & end I step on my tuner so's ya' get a little taste of the radio interference.
There are some good Fuzz Faces with expanded controls like the Fulltone 69, but really adding all that stuff is like putting a middle pickup on a Tele. You are technically adding more tonal options and more sounds, but really you're getting away from the point.
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