Deft Wetsanding

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:49 am

Im making a new thread........

So I put on a Fender decal on a Squier neck, (Again only cuz I wanted to completely strip it, so the old logo had to go) and also clearcoated it. I tried to give it a slight worn look. I think it looks alright, but that just might be me. I likee tho'
For some reason I want some white Klusons on it...
The guitar body now looks too new now

...might have to rough up a bit for fake mojo.

How soon after you put deft can you polish/final/wetsand?

Original White neck

robert(original) · Post by **robert(original)** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:53 am

once you final sand, wait a couple weeks.
then buff it out. no matter what brand nitro lacquer cures the most in the first 3 weeks, and is forever curing after that.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:58 pm

How long do I need to wait for final sanding? Is 3 days enough?

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:39 pm

somebody should make squier decals.

Mo Law-ka · Post by **Mo Law-ka** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:41 pm

jcyphe wrote:i suck at giving advice lol.

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:57 pm

Do as Robert says, but here's something to keep in mind.

A lot of people believe that you should wait a week for every two coats of nitro. That means a body with 1 coat of seal, 2 primers, 3 colors, and 10 clears would take 8 weeks to cure well enough to wet sand. Nitro cures when the liquid component evaporates, leaving just the solids. The full process could take up to a year, but the guitar can be handled after a few weeks. Each successive layer makes it take longer for the under-layers to outgas. On a neck, you are doing way fewer coats, have a harder surface, and don't care as much how pristine it is because you want a worn look anyway.

If you don't let the nitro harden enough, in extreme cases (due to climate, etc) the finish can be dented, smudged, or imprinted, even by the fur of the case. If you keep that in mind, you can wet sand it anyway and be playing it while it is still drying out. With Deft your nitro shouldn't yellow over time, but it will still ultimately get fantastic tiny cracks in it over time. This is the result of prolonged drying. Since you are not worried about vintage value, you could even freshen the nitro in 20 years and get it back to the new look.

Aug used to rush the sanding all the time, without issue. But I have done it with mixed results, ending up with tiny pinholes in the paint from the escaping vapors. To further complicate matters, some people say you can rush acrylic lacquer, while others complain that it stays mushy for a long time. YRMV

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:58 pm

Squier decals spelled Squire, a la Craigslist.

Justin J · Post by **Justin J** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:08 pm

DGNR8 wrote:With Deft your nitro shouldn't yellow over time

i'm gonna test this theory with a tele neck i just refinished by leaving it in the sun for a while.
my understanding is that there really is no way to keep nitrocellulose from yellowing. they put a uv protecting chemical in the lacquer, but it will only last so long. i want to find out how long.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:30 pm

Damn, I only have one guitar might have to wetsand soon so it can be played. Final polish it in a month or so...

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:01 pm

Mo Rocca wrote:
jcyphe wrote:i suck at giving advice lol.

I'm pretty sure I've given people a lot more advice over the years than you,

.

JamesSmann · Post by **JamesSmann** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:24 pm

tribi9 wrote:How long do I need to wait for final sanding? Is 3 days enough?

if this is what i think it is: you get mass kudos. great reference to one of the best movies ever. any single guy in his early 20's can relate like a mother fucker that flick.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:41 pm

St. Jimmy wrote:
tribi9 wrote:How long do I need to wait for final sanding? Is 3 days enough?
if this is what i think it is: you get mass kudos. great reference to one of the best movies ever. any single guy in his early 20's can relate like a mother fucker that flick.

Best movie ever is "Goldmember" Don't remember that line in the movie...

Austin: So you're the (zoom up on the mole's mole) mo-o-ole, mo-o-o-le...
Foxxy: and Austin: Mo-ost, most, most excellent agent we've ever seen.
Austin: Yes, most excellent agent we've ever seen.

Mo Law-ka · Post by **Mo Law-ka** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:46 pm

jcyphe wrote:
Mo Rocca wrote:
jcyphe wrote:i suck at giving advice lol.
I'm pretty sure I've given people a lot more advice over the years than you, .

touche`

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:15 am

Damn, couldn't wait so I put tuners in. She will have to cure and be played at the same time, if it goes bad, Ill just shot some more clear on top and wait the suggested times...

Had the same issue Malik had with the conversion bushings. I just stuck a little paper (Actually the stuff I cut out out of the Headstock decal) around them, now they fit snug.

Dgnr8 and Rob(OG) thx for your input.

Thoughts?

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:28 am

Very nice. I'd get a mint guard for it though. Ever since seeing the '50's classic in sonic blue with a mint guard I love that combination.

That sentence reads terribly, sorry.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:10 pm

I've been thinking mint too, but im kinda broke. Anybody wanna trade a white guard for a mint?

James · Post by **James** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:17 pm

Not to derail your thread, but do other peple here like pale necks? I quite like the look of these squiers because of them.

Post by **Mike** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:18 pm

I don't mind a pale neck. I personally would never see the point in finishing a neck darker.

The finished product looks nice though.

tribi9 · Post by **tribi9** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:28 pm

Thx, just personal preference I guess, I just like how they look. Just like Kluson tuners, I love them and I put them on them on almost every neck I get.

Sublimedo · Post by **Sublimedo** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:35 pm

I prefer pale necks on certain finishes and guitars, certain squiers and other non-fenders being the predominant cases. However, in the case of my fiesta red esquire I just HAD to tint to pull off a matching headstock, IMO.

with no tint

through a time machine!

as far as deft, I've polished and wetsanded after about two hours with no problem, but it is under the warm california sun where this is done.