anyone installed a tremsetter?
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anyone installed a tremsetter?
just got one off ebay to sort out the trem on my frankenstrat - i've seen the guy on youtube installing it, who obviously makes it look easy since he's the guy that invented it... but in reality is it a major job or best left to a pro? i looked at adding an LSR nut myself, but ended up leaving that for my local repair guy...
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LSR nut i never tryed , my guitars have tremolo unit i did Graphtech nut
Hipshot Tremm-setter are amazing thing for stratos and floyds
i have on 2 guitars
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_ta ... etter.html
perfect trio for tremolo guitars , Lock Tunners like Shaller M6 lock or Gotoh S38 Magnum Lock , Trem-setter , Graphtech nut , Graphite nut or Brass nut
LSR nut i never tryed , my guitars have tremolo unit i did Graphtech nut
Hipshot Tremm-setter are amazing thing for stratos and floyds
i have on 2 guitars
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_ta ... etter.html
perfect trio for tremolo guitars , Lock Tunners like Shaller M6 lock or Gotoh S38 Magnum Lock , Trem-setter , Graphtech nut , Graphite nut or Brass nut
Precise dwarf bravery
that's kind of what i'm after. i already have sperzels tuners and the LSR roller nut, but just wanted to add a tremsetter to help with return position and bending problems.
big question for me is whether or not i can drill the 1/2" clearance hole towards the neck of the guitar, with my limited drill/bit combos available...
big question for me is whether or not i can drill the 1/2" clearance hole towards the neck of the guitar, with my limited drill/bit combos available...
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don't think it restricts travel at all - just dampens out flutter, makes sure it always returns to the same point, and counteracts the tension created when bending strings (so all the strings stay in tune even if you do four fret bends...) - at least that's the plan.
i'm still waiting on delivery...
i'm still waiting on delivery...
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got it yesterday, installed it yesterday evening.
the youtube installation video obviously makes it look a lot easier: trying to get the strings back up to pitch after you've removed the claw screws is a pain in the butt, and the worst part is trying to drill the small hole for the brass rod to go through... but anyway.
there's a bit of setup to do afterwards - I found that the hook that's meant to hold the tremsetter in place, would become loose when bending upwards, but after playing about with it for a bit, all seems to be working now.
pros: double-stop country style bending works great. I can hit an open A string, bend something around the 16th fret G string and it all stays in tune - no dipping or whatever, just like a hardtail. Seems to sustain more (though that may be a placebo effect), and also returns to zero. I can dive bomb happily, and there may be a slight bit of shift but nothing that would constitute drastic out-of-tune-ness...
cons: it's a lot harder to use the trem arm. there's possibly something on the back that will ease this, but it really does require more effort to bend up and down. makes a few noises too - like a 'clunk' when it returns to its rest position, but am sure that will go with use.
icey may have some comments on this since he seems to also have one or two installed...
the youtube installation video obviously makes it look a lot easier: trying to get the strings back up to pitch after you've removed the claw screws is a pain in the butt, and the worst part is trying to drill the small hole for the brass rod to go through... but anyway.
there's a bit of setup to do afterwards - I found that the hook that's meant to hold the tremsetter in place, would become loose when bending upwards, but after playing about with it for a bit, all seems to be working now.
pros: double-stop country style bending works great. I can hit an open A string, bend something around the 16th fret G string and it all stays in tune - no dipping or whatever, just like a hardtail. Seems to sustain more (though that may be a placebo effect), and also returns to zero. I can dive bomb happily, and there may be a slight bit of shift but nothing that would constitute drastic out-of-tune-ness...
cons: it's a lot harder to use the trem arm. there's possibly something on the back that will ease this, but it really does require more effort to bend up and down. makes a few noises too - like a 'clunk' when it returns to its rest position, but am sure that will go with use.
icey may have some comments on this since he seems to also have one or two installed...
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benwalker wrote:got it yesterday, installed it yesterday evening.
the youtube installation video obviously makes it look a lot easier: trying to get the strings back up to pitch after you've removed the claw screws is a pain in the butt, and the worst part is trying to drill the small hole for the brass rod to go through... but anyway.
there's a bit of setup to do afterwards - I found that the hook that's meant to hold the tremsetter in place, would become loose when bending upwards, but after playing about with it for a bit, all seems to be working now.
pros: double-stop country style bending works great. I can hit an open A string, bend something around the 16th fret G string and it all stays in tune - no dipping or whatever, just like a hardtail. Seems to sustain more (though that may be a placebo effect), and also returns to zero. I can dive bomb happily, and there may be a slight bit of shift but nothing that would constitute drastic out-of-tune-ness...
cons: it's a lot harder to use the trem arm. there's possibly something on the back that will ease this, but it really does require more effort to bend up and down. makes a few noises too - like a 'clunk' when it returns to its rest position, but am sure that will go with use.
icey may have some comments on this since he seems to also have one or two installed...
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my add to your comment is
over floyd rose :
Dive Bomb and Dive Push don´t lose tune fast
Hold on the Guitar in tune even more
and yes it´s make the guitar a little hard to do bend and use the tremolo yet 2 cons to lot´s of pros
it´s will have more sustain , the bridge stay tight , tension increase , don´t floating all the time like on normal tremolo Coil
do you put the Coil´s in V and the tremmsetter in middle ?
Precise dwarf bravery
@icey - i left it with the two outer springs parallel (same as yours) - I used to have three springs in a 'v' arrangement either side of the middle spring, but didn't feel the need with the tremsetter.
@aphasiac - the normal back-springs only pull: you rely on the strings tension to get the bridge back to its rest position again. adding more or stiffer springs may counteract the double-stop problem, but does make the trem much much harder to use. The tremsetter assembly is constantly in a balance of not only pulling but pushing - this balance makes the bridge return to its rest position, regardless of what the strings are doing, so you can bend as much as you like and it won't budge.
fwiw, i got lucky with drilling the hole, and it really isn't noticeable in comparison to a large tremsetter sitting in your trem cavity. The guy in the demo uses a large drill bit to guarantee clearance, whilst in my case i managed to somehow get away with a 1.6mm hole that lines up perfectly.. which isn't bad considering i used a hand drill and a bit of guesswork...
@aphasiac - the normal back-springs only pull: you rely on the strings tension to get the bridge back to its rest position again. adding more or stiffer springs may counteract the double-stop problem, but does make the trem much much harder to use. The tremsetter assembly is constantly in a balance of not only pulling but pushing - this balance makes the bridge return to its rest position, regardless of what the strings are doing, so you can bend as much as you like and it won't budge.
fwiw, i got lucky with drilling the hole, and it really isn't noticeable in comparison to a large tremsetter sitting in your trem cavity. The guy in the demo uses a large drill bit to guarantee clearance, whilst in my case i managed to somehow get away with a 1.6mm hole that lines up perfectly.. which isn't bad considering i used a hand drill and a bit of guesswork...
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