Guitars With 24" Scale Length

MMPicker · Post by **MMPicker** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:37 am

Hi, my first post here.

Seems like if you're going to talk about short scale guitars, it might be useful to identify exactly what guitars you're talking about.

To me, 22.5" Musicmaster length is too short, Gibson 24-3/4" is too long, 24" feels just right. But there aren't a ton of guitars out there with this scale length. So as a public service to other interested parties, I will list every model I've found that is/was made with a 24" scale length, plus or minus no more than 1/2". (otherwise have to start adding standard Gretsch models, that's where I draw the line).

Please correct my mistakes, and add others you know about to this thread.

24" (to below 24-1/2")
Fender : Musicmaster II, Bronco, Duosonic II, Mustang, Jaguar (all permutations), Jag-Stang,
â€œShort Stratâ€� (japan),
Squier Classic Vibe Duosonic, Squier Jagmaster
Peavey T-15, T-30
Harmony (also Heathkit ,Heath , Silvertone) : Bobkat ,Mercury ,Jupiter, Rocket, Meteor
Univox UC-2
Brian May (& Burns Brian May)
SX SST62, SST57
Series 10 325 Miami
Ibanez ORM1

24-1/2":
Paul Reed Smith : Santana models, SC245

23-1/2":
Gibson Byrdland
Epiphone Elitist Byrdland

That's all I've been able to find so far, in exactly this 24" scale length +-1/2".

Suggest someone might start a different thread for 22-1/2", or for 24-5/8", if they want to. Above that,the number of models becomes very large. Personally I don't regard a standard Gibson scale as "short scale". But I see that said a lot.

Will · Post by **Will** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:54 am

Silvertone 1448 is 22.75" I believe.

I have the Series 10 325 - the real thing is 20.75"

Ninja Mike 808 · Post by **Ninja Mike 808** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:55 am

Some Epiphone Les Pauls just feel short to me. I've never felt that a guitar was too long, though, but I was surprised by an LP at how not-so-long it felt...

Ace first post, though, guy...

MattK · Post by **MattK** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:40 am

According to this site the Mosrite guitars have a 24.5" scale length.

Post by **Mike** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:31 am

MMPicker wrote:24-1/2":
Paul Reed Smith : Santana models, SC245

Disqualified because they're PRS guitars. Yeeeech.

MMPicker wrote:23-1/2":
Gibson Byrdland
Epiphone Elitist Byrdland

Argh ugly jazzboxes

Will · Post by **Will** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:01 am

I've always found the Gibson ES-140 rather attractive. It's 22.75"

ludger · Post by **ludger** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:49 pm

Ninja Mike 808 wrote: I've never felt that a guitar was too long, though, but I was surprised by an LP at how not-so-long it felt...

The one time I've played a gibson firebird the neck seemed super long.

BobArsecake · Post by **BobArsecake** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:09 pm

I consider "shortscale" to apply to any guitar that has a scale length between 20.5" and 24.75" with that and up to 25.5" being standard.

robroe · Post by **robroe** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:59 pm

you forgot the super sonic.

RumorsOFsurF · Post by **RumorsOFsurF** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:25 pm

BobArsecake wrote:I consider "shortscale" to apply to any guitar that has a scale length between 20.5" and 24.75" with that and up to 25.5" being standard.

+1

jeff · Post by **jeff** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:24 pm

Thanks for including the Peavey T-30 on this list. That was my first ever guitar, and I think you just solved the puzzle of why I prefer the 24" scale. I don't think I even knew there were different scale lengths back when that guitar was my #1. I bought it in 1992 (I think), and finally got around to selling it this summer after it sat in my parents' basement for years.

deaner33 · Post by **deaner33** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:28 pm

The Peavey T-15 is 23.5" scale & has 20 frets.

There was a short scale SX-SJM that is 24" scale.

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:03 pm

Gretsch Corvette 24.5!

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:04 pm

BobArsecake wrote:I consider "shortscale" to apply to any guitar that has a scale length between 20.5" and 24.75" with that and up to 25.5" being standard.

Wait, so 25.5 is standard, so if the number is smaller than 25.5, that means it's shorter, which would make it shortscale?

Genius.

This thread sucks.

MMPicker · Post by **MMPicker** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:41 pm

DGNR8 wrote:Gretsch Corvette 24.5!

some sites I just checked agree with that, however FWIW most others say 24.6" (625mm).

deaner33 wrote:The Peavey T-15 is 23.5" scale & has 20 frets.

Some sites I just checked say that, others say it was 23-3/4".

deaner33 wrote:There was a short scale SX-SJM that is 24".

Cannot corroborate this, link??

superfuzz · Post by **superfuzz** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:32 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SX_SJM

They were released in 2007 or something along those lines.

The natural finish one is news to me!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:27 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_length

deaner33 · Post by **deaner33** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:58 am

MMPicker wrote:
DGNR8 wrote:Gretsch Corvette 24.5!
some sites I just checked agree with that, however FWIW most others say 24.6" (625mm).

deaner33 wrote:The Peavey T-15 is 23.5" scale & has 20 frets.

Some sites I just checked say that, others say it was 23-3/4".

deaner33 wrote:There was a short scale SX-SJM that is 24".
Cannot corroborate this, link??

From the owner's manual for the T-15:

I had the Short Scale SJM as well. It was cool looking, but I could never get it to intonate properly.

MMPicker · Post by **MMPicker** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:26 pm

Here's some others at 24" (610mm). Hope everyone here has each of these.

Elgava Unika-2
Hopf Explorer Standard
Gear4music 3/4 Electric ST Guitar
Mannix LAST36-SV-B

zenpharaohs · Post by **zenpharaohs** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:38 am

BobArsecake wrote:I consider "shortscale" to apply to any guitar that has a scale length between 20.5" and 24.75" with that and up to 25.5" being standard.

Seems pretty odd, including all the Gibsons, etc. Les Pauls don't strike me as "short scale".

Plus there are some standard scale lengths past 25.5" - those Selmer Maccaferri guitars, etc. can be 670mm (26.37")

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