Korean SHO clone kit & moar...

euan · Post by **euan** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:12 pm

ZVex would struggle in any court with IP or copyright. The only thing he has a leg on is his branding and name.

aphasiac · Post by **aphasiac** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:54 pm

euan wrote:ZVex would struggle in any court with IP or copyright. The only thing he has a leg on is his branding and name.

I though Zvex was quite quick on issuing IP takedown notices on schematics regarding clones of his pedals?

You certainly can't buy any clones or kits on ebay, and even discuss them on HC or the Muse forum.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:24 pm

Is there a schematic of the SHO on that site? I can't read gibberish.

euan · Post by **euan** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:34 pm

aphasiac wrote:
euan wrote:ZVex would struggle in any court with IP or copyright. The only thing he has a leg on is his branding and name.
I though Zvex was quite quick on issuing IP takedown notices on schematics regarding clones of his pedals?

You certainly can't buy any clones or kits on ebay, and even discuss them on HC or the Muse forum.

The is general moderation. He asks moderators of forums not to allow it. Freestompboxes open discuss and dissect his pedals and ignored his threats. If you were selling a circuit which was basically a Fuzz Factory there is very little he could do. He can protect his trademark but can do very little about the actual circuits.

Case example being when Behringer released all their Boss clones. The only thing Boss could do was sue them over the copying of cases, so Behringer redesigned them.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:36 pm

PenPen wrote:Is there a schematic of the SHO on that site? I can't read gibberish.

Seriously, with the mystery around this pedal for years I am dying to see the schem to know how it is different from the AMZ Mosfet Boost.

euan · Post by **euan** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:37 pm

Eh, nothing I thought. I thought Zvex was pretty open about it being basically that circuit.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:39 pm

He said it started as that circuit, but always hinted that he changed something in it. I want to know what it was. I've built my own variants of that circuit and want to know how close I got to the legendary SHO.

tragictravisty · Post by **tragictravisty** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:04 pm

id be surprised is zvex got a copyright on the FF. its a EHX treble booster driving a modded fuzz face. he should be sued.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:33 pm

Dude, if people could sue for making a variant of another pedal circuit there would be nothing out there but Dist+, Rangemasters, and Fuzz Faces. Everything, and I do mean everything, is based on some very very very basic designs.

euan · Post by **euan** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:41 pm

PenPen wrote:Dude, if people could sue for making a variant of another pedal circuit there would be nothing out there but Dist+, Rangemasters, and Fuzz Faces. Everything, and I do mean everything, is based on some very very very basic designs.

And the BMP.

Will · Post by **Will** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:50 pm

PenPen wrote:
PenPen wrote:Is there a schematic of the SHO on that site? I can't read gibberish.
Seriously, with the mystery around this pedal for years I am dying to see the schem to know how it is different from the AMZ Mosfet Boost.

They're almost identical - if I remember correctly, the only change is upping the 2.2M input resistor on the MOSFET.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:16 pm

Some of them are 1M still.

I posted the schematic in Effects a few months back, do a search

Post by **Mike** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:19 pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/M ... ockdc1.png

There's one on the back end as the switchable boost.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:02 pm

euan wrote:
PenPen wrote:Dude, if people could sue for making a variant of another pedal circuit there would be nothing out there but Dist+, Rangemasters, and Fuzz Faces. Everything, and I do mean everything, is based on some very very very basic designs.
And the BMP.

BMP is just three cascaded amplifier stages. It's basically three tweaked Rangemaster circuits in series. The only "new" think about it is the tone circuit, but I'm sure some amp maker did the same thing before the BMP. So that I would put under the "Rangemaster-derived" basket.

Pens · Post by **Pens** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:05 pm

Mike wrote:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/M ... ockdc1.png

There's one on the back end as the switchable boost.

Thanks. I'll have to compare this to my "Boots" pedal schem.