The MoMA in NYC is about half hilarious, half genuinely good.
Joseph Beuys type shit infuriates me.
we used to have to sit through tedious lectures about him at college. load of old bollocks.
I'd love it if he was doing it all as a joke, though. Like the myth/legend of Joseph Beuys thing and all his work was just a joke to fool idiots, but I doubt it, and we'll never know I suppose.
BobArsecake wrote:
The MoMA in NYC is about half hilarious, half genuinely good.
Joseph Beuys type shit infuriates me.
we used to have to sit through tedious lectures about him at college. load of old bollocks.
I'd love it if he was doing it all as a joke, though. Like the myth/legend of Joseph Beuys thing and all his work was just a joke to fool idiots, but I doubt it, and we'll never know I suppose.
i wouldn't say performance was a very popular discipline at edinburgh, thank god, but one tutor in particular used to froth at the thought of him. i'm almost 100% sure that if i'd ran about talking to a dead rabbit as part of my degree show, the result would have been-
FAIL
but having seen with my own eyes some of the utter crap that people got firsts for, there remains that sliver of uncertainty.
I tend to agree about Beuys. But he may be like the Brian Eno of a certain period. Maybe you don't like HIS shit, but perhaps he inspired Modest Mouse or whomever. At that time we were at the end of a bunch of roads and we never did quite figure out where to go next. The answer of course is the same with music. EVERYWHERE!
Another thing with Beuys is that you (I, I don't know, I don't want to apply my thoughts to y'all) need to remember that he was really the first to do that sort of shit, I mean you had DADA etc but he was a bit different, and I think if you want to appreciate his stuff you have to push out of your mind all the bollocks that followed it and was too closely "inspired" by it. I have the same problem with DADA as I do with Beuys, but find it easier to see DADA as being the first of that and can separate it a bit better from the stuff that followed it.
BobArsecake wrote:Another thing with Beuys is that you (I, I don't know, I don't want to apply my thoughts to y'all) need to remember that he was really the first to do that sort of shit, I mean you had DADA etc but he was a bit different, and I think if you want to appreciate his stuff you have to push out of your mind all the bollocks that followed it and was too closely "inspired" by it. I have the same problem with DADA as I do with Beuys, but find it easier to see DADA as being the first of that and can separate it a bit better from the stuff that followed it.
DADA was a more anti-politics protest. Which gave it a lot of artistic flare and significance. It was a dig at war and goverment in general. I'm not really into this sort of art personally. I like Pollock, Picasso, Hundertwasser, Dahli, Van Vliet. The more expressive and surreal sides of art. But I think art such as Beuys etc, is a little pointless.