New amp :)

ultraviolence · Post by **ultraviolence** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:15 am

Yeah, I finally got the Crate V-50 today and I realllllllllllllllllllly like it, I haven't really been able to push it past anything more than bedroom volume yet, but sometime later I hopefully will.

The thing is fucking awesome, and for only 225$ (taxes included).

Pics are VIA my dads cell phone camera

haven't done a demo yet...I might later.

My DS-1 and EHX Double Muff are the 2 pedals on the top....couldn't find the flanger then..

ultraviolence · Post by **ultraviolence** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:05 pm

2 days later and a tube is blown -_-

Post by **Doog** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:15 pm

Preamp or poweramp?

ultraviolence · Post by **ultraviolence** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:17 pm

Doog wrote:Preamp or poweramp?

power...I've been waiting over a minute while the tubes are on standby and all....Fucking annoyed cause the store doesn't have any guarantee on Crate amps...apparently crate doesn't do Guarantee's with stores anymore.

astro · Post by **astro** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:42 pm

ultraviolence wrote:Fucking annoyed cause the store doesn't have any guarantee on Crate amps...apparently crate doesn't do Guarantee's with stores anymore.

What?!

What store did you buy this at?

ultraviolence · Post by **ultraviolence** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:43 pm

astro wrote:
ultraviolence wrote:Fucking annoyed cause the store doesn't have any guarantee on Crate amps...apparently crate doesn't do Guarantee's with stores anymore.
What?!

What store did you buy this at?

italmelodie

steve's sells the v-50 for 399, italmelodie had it for 199$

Sloan · Post by **Sloan** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:08 pm

fuck, they should replace the t00b. asshats.
did it ship with tubes or was a demo model?

James · Post by **James** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:08 am

ultraviolence wrote:
Doog wrote:Preamp or poweramp?
power...I've been waiting over a minute while the tubes are on standby and all....Fucking annoyed cause the store doesn't have any guarantee on Crate amps...apparently crate doesn't do Guarantee's with stores anymore.

I don't know the Canadian laws but i'm fairly certain that would be illegal in England. There might be some small print about valves not being covered because they wear out, but 2 days isn't at all reasonable and even a mobile phone company wouldn't be able to fob you off that easily.

aen · Post by **aen** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:57 am

I bet your DS-1 is to blame.

ultraviolence · Post by **ultraviolence** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:38 am

Sloan wrote:fuck, they should replace the t00b. asshats.
did it ship with tubes or was a demo model?

I was the only one that tried it, when I went there to try it out they had to take it from the back and bring it to the floor, then I put a 50$ deposit on it so my mom could take me to pick it up the next day...

and it's really fucking annoying cause I went the extra damn mile with this thing and waited like 2-3 minutes most times before switching from standby to on.

James wrote:
ultraviolence wrote:
Doog wrote:Preamp or poweramp?
power...I've been waiting over a minute while the tubes are on standby and all....Fucking annoyed cause the store doesn't have any guarantee on Crate amps...apparently crate doesn't do Guarantee's with stores anymore.
I don't know the Canadian laws but i'm fairly certain that would be illegal in England. There might be some small print about valves not being covered because they wear out, but 2 days isn't at all reasonable and even a mobile phone company wouldn't be able to fob you off that easily.

What do you think I should do?

I have to wait for my mom to take me to the store anyways, she's usually good at yelling at people and usually after an hour of yelling at them she gets what she wants

.... Fucking pissed cause this pretty much costed me my whole damn paycheck on it...so I really can't afford the 50$ for a new tube + biasing + installation :/

you think I should just scrape some more cash up pay for a tube, and then crate will send me a new set of tubes for my amp so this way I can have a full set of tubes in case the fucking thing acts up again.

aen wrote:I bet your DS-1 is to blame.

it actually happened right when I switched off my double muff

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:54 am

ultraviolence wrote:italmelodie had it for 199$

WTF?

I gotta hit Italmelodie tomorrow BAD!
did you see any V33 HEADS?

ultraviolence · Post by **ultraviolence** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:56 am

laterallateral wrote:
ultraviolence wrote:italmelodie had it for 199$
WTF?

I gotta hit Italmelodie tomorrow BAD!
did you see any V33 HEADS?

didn't really pay attention

I know the 118 212 was also 199

don't recall seing any 33's (112, 212, cab, or head) on the floor...

they had a MG halfstack for 399 but I hear the whole MG series is fucking trash... everything there is quite cheaper than steve's

Will · Post by **Will** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:14 am

Even with doing the whole standby thing a tube shouldn't have blown after 2 days. Most tubes were designed for use in radio broadcasts for hours on end at 2-3 times amp voltages. The store is probably aware that those amps ship with the cheapest of cheap non-matched Chinese tubes. I'm sure if you make a stink they'll give you a pair of Sovteks for free or at least cheap. Make sure you get something from Russia, Slovakia, or (best quality) NOS USSR.

Will · Post by **Will** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:14 am

edit: rare triple post.

But yeah - 6L6s are made for high power radio broadcast at close to 1000 volts. The filament life should be around 3000 hours.

astro · Post by **astro** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:55 am

If you want really good tubes, I recommend JJ's.

www.eurotubes.com

James · Post by **James** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:42 am

ultraviolence wrote:
James wrote:
ultraviolence wrote: power...I've been waiting over a minute while the tubes are on standby and all....Fucking annoyed cause the store doesn't have any guarantee on Crate amps...apparently crate doesn't do Guarantee's with stores anymore.
I don't know the Canadian laws but i'm fairly certain that would be illegal in England. There might be some small print about valves not being covered because they wear out, but 2 days isn't at all reasonable and even a mobile phone company wouldn't be able to fob you off that easily.
What do you think I should do?

Have a quick look into Canadian consumer law. You bouht an electrical appliance and that should give you at least 1 years guarantee. A lot of things in the UK are actually covered for 6 years (where it is reasonable to expect that length of life) through the law but standard warranties only cover 1 year. Arm yourself with the facts, then ring them up and explain the situation. If they say "there is no warranty on crate" in the store, the law should still take priority over that but it might not. If they have nothing advertised clearly in the store or on paperwork you signed when you bought the amp, the law will absolutely be in charge and you should be entitled to a refund, replacement or repair.

James · Post by **James** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:51 am

http://consumer-law.lawyers.com/warrant ... tml#twelve

You have an implied warranty through the fact they sold it to you, and the tubes are reasonably expected to last longer than two days, so you are covered. The question two below about premature wear mentions the reasonable use term of merchantability.

Althouhg I searched Canada I think that's actually an American site. The law is different to England but similar in terms of the reasonable use coverage. I'll try and find something more Canada specific.

James · Post by **James** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:57 am

This is the UK site run by the government. link

A similar site covering Canada would clear up your problem in a few minutes. Here are a couple I found that might be good enough to get your info from.

Consumers' Association of Canada
Consumer rights for Ontario (not sure how relevant that is)

More Cowbell · Post by **More Cowbell** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:05 pm

Russian tubes are shit.

Post by **Mike** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:56 pm

More Cowbell wrote:Russian tubes are shit.

Don't talk rot. They're all much of a muchness these days.