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Finally! A drop in replacement for vintage Fender Wide Range Humbuckers and MIM Re-issues!

Get that killer Wide Range Humbucker Tone from our "retro-fit" pickup that looks exactly like the Fender 1970's original and nails the vintage tone of this elusive design.

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Any of you who have followed the thread here on OSG have seen the development and heard the sound clips.

I am not a manufacturer or pickup builder but because the interest in this project was so strong I have agreed to order enough parts to make a limited number of these, (30 to be exact)
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Here's the deal:

Retro-fit for Fender Wide Range Humbucking Pickups

We have come up with a retro-fit process to convert Fender MIM (made in mexico) Re-issue Wide Range Humbucking Pickups (WRHB) into an excellent vintage sounding pickup offering tonal performance very similar to the original WRHB’s found in Fender Deluxe, Custom and Thinline Telecasters from the 70’s.

This is NOT a Fender product. It is a modification performed on one of their existing products for the purpose of enhancing the sound.

This is a retro-fit process where we remove the coils from a Fender MIM Re-issue WRHB pickup and add our custom made parts to create a vintage type pickup that performs much like the original 70’s WRHB pickup.

Like the originals, these will not be neck or bridge specific.

These pickups have been thoroughly tested and sound best with 1 meg pots. (Just like the originals)

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Here’s what goes into them:

We remove the existing coils from a Fender MIM re-issue WRHB and replace them with our coils. Our bobbins are machined from Delrin and each coil is hand wound to produce that warm, rich, full bodied sound of a 70’s WRHB.

Our alnico V magnets are slightly staggered and custom ground to give the appearance of adjustment screws. They are NOT adjustable! Attempting to turn them will damage the magnets!

The finest materials available are being used in these pickups. From the wire, to the Delrin bobbins, to the custom alnico magnets, no expense is spared!

The original MIM chrome cover is re-installed and the pickup is wax potted to prevent it from being microphonic.

The MIM coils and magnets we remove are returned to you with your retro-fitted pickup.




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We’re offering these pickups in one option only.

You can order them with a 1 or 2 conductor shielded lead. The single conductor, shielded lead is “total vintage.� Some prefer this style as the lead consists of a single wire with a braided shield just like the original.

We’re offering the 2 conductor/braided shield option for those who want to be able to change the polarity of the pickup making it easier to use with other brands whose polarity may not match ours.

Ordering this option makes a lot of sense for those who are not as particular about total vintage specs. Order carefully!

These pickups are a direct polarity match with the Fender MIM re-issue pickups.

On a couple of our test pickups, we had some chrome peel at the edge of the Fender cover where the plating appears to be thinnest. Our experience with the Fender MIM WRHB’s has shown that the chrome plating on these covers may in some instances peel a little bit.

While every effort will be made to keep the chrome intact, we cannot be responsible for peeling chrome on the pickup covers. It seems to be confined to the sides of the cover and our test pieces have not peeled across the top nor does it show when mounted in the pick guard. We’ll tack it down with super glue if needed, but cannot be held responsible. If you’ve sent us a cover that is particularly bad, we’ll call before proceeding with the retro-fit.

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How this all works:

You send us your Fender MIM re-issue WRHB and we do the retro-fit.

The cost is $250 per pickup + shipping UPS Ground, from 06611

All sales are final with the exception that we will re-work anything that is the result of defective materials or workmanship on the parts we’ve made and installed.

We require that you provide the “donor pickup� but in cases where these are not readily available, like overseas orders, we will make an exception.

If you have us provide the “donor pickup,� it will cost the additional amount of a Fender MIM Re-issue WRHB at the current fair market value as prices do fluctuate.

Lead time is about 4 weeks. There is a limited quantity of pickups available.

Please contact me at bikeshots@earthlink.net

You have to have or purchase the pickup, and then pay for the mods. Why on earth anyone would spend $250 on modding a current one to sound like a vintage one when they could just spend that on an original?
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haha I just seen that as well....and thought the same thing. I kinda wanted to tell him to get fucked, but its not the place for that. guys a fcukin nob.
The thing is...why people go so stupid over widerangers is beyond me...they are still fuckin scumbag humbuckers!!!! fucks sake. you might aswell buy a jb for you middy bollocks rockhardonrifs!

fuck widerangers and fuck this guy taking advantage of the mentally ill.
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Post by Mike »

Here is the bottom line:

1. He's not selling humbuckers with a series of six core magnets.
2. He's using AlNiCo and not CuNiFe

So basically he's charging you a bunch of money to do nothing to the pickup and then tells you to use 1 MEG pots (which would yield a better sound from the stock WRHB RIs anyway.

And that, Ladies and Gentleman - is that. I don't buy his patter for second, what a cunt.

WRHBs RI cost $99
The mod is $250 and:
On a couple of our test pickups, we had some chrome peel at the edge of the Fender cover where the plating appears to be thinnest. Our experience with the Fender MIM WRHB’s has shown that the chrome plating on these covers may in some instances peel a little bit.
Dear fucking CHRIST. You pay $350 (about the going rate for an Original CuNiFe WRHB) for an uglier version of the RI pickup which sounds the same. BONERPANTS

Someone needs to call this guy out.
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Hurb wrote:fuck this guy taking advantage of the mentally ill.
hahaha
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I really want to..but I want to do it in a way that wont be too much like " you fuckin cock"

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Hurb wrote:I really want to..but I want to do it in a way that wont be too much like " you fuckin cock"

hmmmmm
WHere is the thread?
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Mike wrote:
Hurb wrote:I really want to..but I want to do it in a way that wont be too much like " you fuckin cock"

hmmmmm
WHere is the thread?
hidden for sale section of offset.
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Hurb wrote:haha I just seen that as well....and thought the same thing. I kinda wanted to tell him to get fucked, but its not the place for that. guys a fcukin nob.
The thing is...why people go so stupid over widerangers is beyond me...they are still fuckin scumbag humbuckers!!!! fucks sake. you might aswell buy a jb for you middy bollocks rockhardonrifs!

fuck widerangers and fuck this guy taking advantage of the mentally ill.
It's funny how if you say you have a jazzmaster body routed for humbuckers everyone wants your blood, but as soon as you say "oh o, it's ok, i used wide rangers" they want to buy you a pint.
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Mike wrote: 1. He's not selling humbuckers with a series of six core magnets.
Our alnico V magnets are slightly staggered and custom ground to give the appearance of adjustment screws. They are NOT adjustable! Attempting to turn them will damage the magnets!
That actually suggests he is is using individual pole pieces rather than a bar magnet.

But you had the same reaction as me, $350 is the going rate for a WR. He would be better off just making these pickups are WR replacement and let people do the cover replacement themselves.

Also at cheaper prices.
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euan wrote:
Mike wrote: 1. He's not selling humbuckers with a series of six core magnets.
Our alnico V magnets are slightly staggered and custom ground to give the appearance of adjustment screws. They are NOT adjustable! Attempting to turn them will damage the magnets!
That actually suggests he is is using individual pole pieces rather than a bar magnet.
They're clearly not polepieces, you can tell from the rest of his bollocks (don't turn the screws!) that he's pulling a fast one just throwing a noname pickup in there.
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I've never played an OG WR but people go on about them as if they're the fucking cure for cancer.
It's a pickup, it's some magnets and wire, move the fuck on.

This guy is definately very shady.
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I posted...I am probably banned man walking now.
I am not a manufacturer or pickup builder


We have come up with a

We remove the

Our alnico V magnets

We’re offering these


That all sounds very manufacturer like to me.
I really tried hard not to post in this thread as I don't like causing any upset around here...but this is utterly ridiculous and I really think this guy is ripping people off if they fall for this ultimate tone mojo hoohaa.
First off if you want to make an exact copy then do so, try using the right CuNiFe magnets for a start. adjustment screws that you can not adjust? come on!!
I hope that people realise that what is happening is this guy is putting a reasonable quality humbucker under your cover..and then charging the earth for it. You could do that yourself and probably not ruin the chrome like he says SOMETIMES happens.
Again apologies to offset for bringing this up, but I do so in the hope that people don't send this guy money because they want that ultimate tone! I can't sit and watch people try and rip others off in what is a very strong community.
I'm sure people here are smart enough anyway, but I had to voice my opinions.
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Hurb wrote:I posted...I am probably banned man walking now.
I am not a manufacturer or pickup builder


We have come up with a

We remove the

Our alnico V magnets

We’re offering these


That all sounds very manufacturer like to me.
I really tried hard not to post in this thread as I don't like causing any upset around here...but this is utterly ridiculous and I really think this guy is ripping people off if they fall f
or this ultimate tone mojo hoohaa.
First off if you want to make an exact copy then do so, try using the right CuNiFe magnets for a start. adjustment screws that you can not adjust? come on!!
I hope that people realise that what is happening is this guy is putting a reasonable quality humbucker under your cover..and then charging the earth for it. You could do that yourself and probably not ruin the chrome like he says SOMETIMES happens.
Again apologies to offset for bringing this up, but I do so in the hope that people don't send this guy money because they want that ultimate tone! I can't sit and watch people try and rip others off in what is a very strong community.
I'm sure people here are smart enough anyway, but I had to voice my opinions.
You missed the part about recommending 1 meg pots, which makes the RIs sound better too.

The only thing that I think is out of order is you bigging up Offset. Who the FUCK are you, Hurb?
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Mike wrote:
euan wrote:
Mike wrote: 1. He's not selling humbuckers with a series of six core magnets.
Our alnico V magnets are slightly staggered and custom ground to give the appearance of adjustment screws. They are NOT adjustable! Attempting to turn them will damage the magnets!
That actually suggests he is is using individual pole pieces rather than a bar magnet.
They're clearly not polepieces, you can tell from the rest of his bollocks (don't turn the screws!) that he's pulling a fast one just throwing a noname pickup in there.
No I don't think so. He talks about alnico pole pieces. The poles in a normal humbuckers are just screws that are magentised by being screwed into the base magnet. I would say these pole pieces have not been machined as screws and that is why he doesn't say to turn them. Also perhaps Alnico V is a softer material than the old polepieces.
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I like offset. I bleed shortscale.
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Don't apologise for doing the right thing, this guy is obviously trying to make some easy cash.

For all we know he might just collect a few people's pickups (he says it'll take about 4 weeks, plenty of time to get a bunch of orders) and fuck off.
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Hurb wrote:I like offset. I bleed shortscale.
I am proud I don't have enough posts there to see this thread.
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Fucking hell, Tribi is active there. Sort your life out Hurb
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/ind ... ile;u=1098
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My understanding of it is he's a guy from that Tele forum, and posted at offset to see if there was any interest. People in the thread liked it, he put them up for sale and nobody has posted in the thread. I might have a look for the tele forum posts in a bit.
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Mike wrote:Fucking hell, Tribi is active there. Sort your life out Hurb
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/ind ... ile;u=1098
He also started a new refin project immediately after the rob(og) fiasco.
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