List of behringer pedals and what they copy

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:59 am

whoa. I just found this very useful list.

Distortion/Overdrive/Fuzz

ULTRA DISTORTION UD100 - Boss DS-2 Turbo Distortion
OVERDRIVE/DISTORTION OD100 - Boss OS-2 Overdrive/Distortion
OVERDRIVE OD400 - Boss OD-3 Overdrive
VINTAGE TUBE OVERDRIVE TO800 - Ibanez TS-808 Tube Screamer
TUBE OVERDRIVE TO100 - Ibanez TS-9 Tube Screamer
BLUES OVERDRIVE BO100 - Boss BD-2 Blues Driver
ULTRA FEEDBACK/DISTORTION FD300 - Boss DF-2 Super Distortion & Feedbacker
HEAVY DISTORTION HD300 - Boss MD-2 Mega Distortion
HEAVY METAL HM300 - Boss HM-2 Heavy Metal
SUPER METAL SM400 - Boss HM-3 Hyper Metal
ULTRA METAL UM100 - Boss MT-2 Metal Zone
ULTRA METAL UM300 - Boss MT-2 Metal Zone
SUPER FUZZ SF300 - Boss FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz
ULTRA FUZZ UZ400 - Boss FZ-3 Fuzz
DISTORTION-X XD300 - Boss XT-2 Xtortion
POWER OVERDRIVE PO300 - Boss PW-2 Power Driver
VINTAGE DISTORTION VD1 - Electro Harmonix Big Muff
DISTORTION MODELER DM100 - Digitech HotRod Distortion
VINTAGE TUBE MONSTER VT999 - Nady TD-1 Tube Distortion
VINTAGE TUBE OVERDRIVE VT911 - Chandler Tube Driver
WARP DISTORTION WD300 - Hughes Kettner Warp Factor

Phaser/Flanger/Filter

ULTRA PHASE SHIFTER UP100 - Boss PH-2 Super Phaser
SUPER PHASE SHIFTER SP400 - Boss PH-3 Phase Shifter
VINTAGE PHASER VP1 - Electro Harmonix Small Stone
PHASER PH9 - MXR EVH Signature Phase 90
FLANGER MACHINE FL600 - Line 6 Liqua Flange
SUPER FLANGER SF400 - Boss BF-3 Flanger
ULTRA FLANGER UF100 - Boss BF-3 Flanger
HI BAND FLANGER HF300 - Boss HF-2 HiBand Flanger
ROTARY MACHINE RM600 - Line 6 Roto-Machine
FILTER MACHINE FM600 - Line 6 Otto Filter

Chorus

CHORUS ORCHESTRA CO600 - Boss CE-5 Chorus Ensemble
CHORUS SPACE-C CC300 - Boss Dimension-C DC-2
CHORUS SPACE-D CD400 - Boss DC-3 Digital Dimension/Digital Space-D
ULTRA CHORUS UC100 - Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
ULTRA CHORUS UC200 - Boss CH-1 Super Chorus

Reverb/Delay

DIGITAL REVERB DR100 - Boss RV-5 Digital Reverb
DIGITAL REVERB/DELAY DR400 - Boss RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay
DIGITAL REVERB DR600 - Boss RV-5 Digital Reverb
REVERB MACHINE RV600 - Line 6 Verbzilla
DIGITAL DELAY DD100 - Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
DIGITAL DELAY DD400 - Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
DIGITAL DELAY DD600 - Boss DD-6 Digital Delay
ECHO MACHINE EM600 - Line 6 Echo Park
VINTAGE DELAY VD400 - Boss DM-2 Delay
VINTAGE TIME MACHINE - Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man

Tremolo

ULTRA TREMOLO UT100 - Boss TR-2 Tremolo
ULTRA TREMOLO/PAN TP300 - Boss PN-2 Tremolo / Pan

Octave

ULTRA OCTAVER UO100 - Boss OC-2 Octaver
ULTRA OCTAVER UO300 - Boss OC-3 Super Octave
SUPER OCTAVER SO400 - Boss OC-3 Super Octave
ULTRA SHIFTER/HARMONIST US600 - Boss PS-5 Super Shifter

Wah

HELLBABE HB01 - Dunlop Crybaby from Hell
ULTRA WAH UW300 - Boss AW-2 Auto Wah
DYNAMIC WAH DW400 - Boss AW-3 Dynamic Wah

Compressor

COMPRESSOR/LIMITER CL9 - TC Electronic Compressor
COMPRESSOR/SUSTAINER CS100 - Boss CS-3 Compression Sustainer
DYNAMICS COMPRESSOR DC9 - MXR Dynacomp

Other

ULTRA VIBRATO UV300 - Boss VB-2 Vibrato
SLOW MOTION SM200 - Boss SG-1 Slow Gear
BASS SYNTHESIZER BSY600 - Boss SYB-5 Bass Synthesizer
PREAMP/BOOSTER PB100 - Nobels PRE-1 Preamplifier

ACOUSTIC MODELER AM100 - Boss AC-2 Acoustic Simulator
ULTRA ACOUSTIC MODELER AM400 - Boss AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
V-TONE GUITAR GDI21 - Sansamp GT2
TUBE AMP MODELER TM300 - Sansamp GT2

SPECTRUM ENHANCER SE200 - Boss SP-1 Spectrum
GRAPHIC EQUALIZER EQ700 - Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer

INTELLIGATE IG9 - ISP Decimator / MXR Smart Gate
NOISE REDUCER NR100 - Boss NS-2 Noise Suppressor
INSTRUMENT/AMP SELECTOR AB100 - Boss LS-2 Line Selector

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:04 am

Wow...Extremely Helpful...

Tanks!

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:12 am

lolz

Everybody knows what they're copies of, did you really need a list?

theshadowofseattle · Post by **theshadowofseattle** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:38 am

DIGITAL DELAY DD600 - Boss DD-6 Digital Delay

hmm... I might pick this up as a backup for my extremely unreliable DD-6.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:47 pm

cheeky, as i just ordered a dd600 and a chorus orchestra

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:55 pm

anyone given the hellbabe a go?

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:49 pm

And...yet again, no one gets that im joking...

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:51 pm

Wilbur wrote:And...yet again, no one gets that im joking...

actually the acoustic modulator threw me for a loop

euan · Post by **euan** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:52 pm

I don't see the joke in what you said. Unless tanks is a poor attempt to have a go at Behringer construction?

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Nick · Post by **Nick** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:37 pm

euan wrote:I don't see the joke in what you said. Unless tanks is a poor attempt to have a go at Behringer construction?

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I only wish I had recorded my "construction test" on that same pedal. The thing was pretty much DOA when I got it, just sounded pure shit and wouldn't go beyond 30% of the bypassed volume without MAJOR clipping and feedback, so I pretty much destroyed it. Out of curiosity does yours have the same problem or does it actually sound good?

But seriously I know I've had a lot to say about my opinion of Behringer stuff in the past, but as far as plastic constructed stompboxes go, there's not really a situation unless you're curb stomping your pedals with steel-toed boots that you'd ever break any box from normal use. Only thing I'd ever test out or be wary of when buying a cheap plastic pedal is how good the micro switch is, since I've seen quite a few (primarily the Ibanez Tone lock series) that sort of engage then disengage with a single kick unless you step on it just right. I don't recall having this problem with any specific Behringer pedal though.

My Behringer haet has died down quite a bit after playing a few pedals that actually worked right. Getting a DOA pedal can kind of kill your spirits about a product/brand. I place them in the "if I want an effect but only want it for one song, I'll get one, but I'm saving my receipt" category.

Haze · Post by **Haze** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:41 pm

have a demo idea, mainly for the snobs that are bitchy about pedals
going to round me up some cheap pedals, demo them all quality like, but not tell them what pedal it is or who made it in what country
good sound is good sound

euan · Post by **euan** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:42 pm

Hurbs video not mine. But both my Behringer pedals are going strong. My DD100 works somewhat better than my DD3 and also sounds slightly brighter.

paul_ · Post by **paul_** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:48 pm

My VD-1 sounds as good as a Big Muff when it's on, but the bypassed sound is keeping it well the fuck away from pedalboard rotation and strictly in overdub territory.

James · Post by **James** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:58 pm

Quite a lot of them are obvious, but not all. I think the list is very worthwhile.

Wilbur · Post by **Wilbur** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:38 pm

euan wrote:I don't see the joke in what you said. Unless tanks is a poor attempt to have a go at Behringer construction?

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Certainly not. I will be buying a few Behringer pedals myself shortly. I in no way meant that the pedals were crap. I was trying to point out that we knew what the majority of the pedals were, and I simply epic-failed at conveying that point. My bad.

benecol · Post by **benecol** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:25 pm

James wrote:Quite a lot of them are obvious, but not all. I think the list is very worthwhile.

Yep, me too. And I want an RV600 please.

othomas2 · Post by **othomas2** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:29 pm

Great thread...

Has anyone tried the Behringer 'tube amp modeler' TM300 ?

I wonder how it would compare to the GT2 I own.... ? probably just buy it anyways..

nomorebridge · Post by **nomorebridge** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:03 pm

What are Behringer actually doing... This has bugged me for a while now.....

Which of the following statements are true/false?

a. They reverse engineer other pedal designs exactly?....or are they a bit different

b. If the answer to A is yes how can they do this legally

c. Most baffling question for me...... How can they charge 1 3rd of the price, is it because a. The components are cheaper and the products are lesser quality to Boss/Electro Harmonix, b. The other companies are ripping you off? c. They save on R&D and pass it on to customers.....

Are they making a loss on pedals?.....

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:05 pm

I'm quite sure their designs are original, just made to sound close to the originals pedals.

They're much cheaper because they're made out of childrens tears and glue.

euan · Post by **euan** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:09 pm

No they are not making a loss. The basically have and entire manufacturing city doing everything in bulk. Yes they reverse engineer stuff but they do a bit of R&D, some of their control surfaces noone else makes.

The legality of effects in general is quite blurred, chances are Boss can't sue Behringer for copying the DS2 because they didn't actually design it in the first place and it was based of a common circuit or one someone else was using. Or the circuit itself is out of copyright. I'm not even sure if you can copyright a circuit, a layout I think yeah.

The real area of ability to sue and so on is infringing on trademarks like the look and names of the pedal.

Where Behringer have run into trouble before is with Mackie and Aphex for infringing on intellectual property thought I believe there was some out of court settlement in that.

http://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=74439

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