The original shortscale guitars; Mustangs, Duo-Sonics, Musicmasters, Jaguars, Broncos, Jag-stang, Jagmaster, Super-Sonic, Cyclone, and Toronados. 
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								by damienblair17  Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:08 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Check it 
thought I'd share. I can't afford it, but someone here might like it.
 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Susano  Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:45 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Someone's selling a USA Toronado with Black Dove P-90's on HC if I recall.  700 shipped.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by terronado  Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:41 pm 
			
			
			
			
			right down the street too, she's mine.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by aen  Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:43 pm 
			
			
			
			
			Yecch.  Thats the crappy 2nd gen Toronado.  It's original mexican Toronado or nothing for me.
			
			
									
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								by dots  Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:33 pm 
			
			
			
			
			why the haet, aen?  those USA toronados are fucking amazing.  really miss mine, actually.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Libtoem101  Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:05 am 
			
			
			
			
			Well maybe because the mexican Toronado's have  more of a vintage look to them,I have a 98 model and I love it,its one of my fav guitars.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by damienblair17  Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:24 am 
			
			
			
			
			Y'know, as much as I like the idea of this USA made Toronado, you just can't beat the look of the original MIM style.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Josh  Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:37 am 
			
			
			
			
			always liked tornado's shame they discontinued them 
 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by terronado  Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:38 am 
			
			
			
			
			oh, i considered it. what about a MIM pickguard? and a nice orange paintjob? or daphne blue? oh i can see the possibilities now.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Skip  Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:23 am 
			
			
			
			
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								by damienblair17  Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:54 am 
			
			
			
			
			terronado wrote: oh, i considered it. what about a MIM pickguard? and a nice orange paintjob? or daphne blue? oh i can see the possibilities now.
Competition Orange FTW.
 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by dots  Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:14 am 
			
			
			
			
			damienblair17 wrote: Y'know, as much as I like the idea of this USA made Toronado, you just can't beat the look of the original MIM style.
i never really paid much attention to them till they came out with the american deluxe versions.  those things were slick.
 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Sublimedo  Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:07 am 
			
			
			
			
			What are the value of these things?
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Mike  Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:12 am 
			
			
			
			
			I has Toronado Bridge on my Duo-Sonic. It is hot shit.
I think the Toronado would look so much better without that hideous Pickguard. It is so massive.
A little better in Black/Tort but still.. fucking hell
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								by Sublimedo  Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:14 am 
			
			
			
			
			I have two guitars with them actually. Early MIM Toronado and my coral '51.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Thom  Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:35 am 
			
			
			
			
			Mike wrote: I think the Toronado would look so much better without that hideous Pickguard. It is so massive.
Yeah totally, the small pg versions are soooooooooooo much better.
 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Mike  Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:37 am 
			
			
			
			
			But unfortunately they have things I dislike also, like the TOM and Tailpiece and the uncovered Pickups.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by Thom  Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:38 am 
			
			
			
			
			Mike wrote: But unfortunately they have things I dislike also, like the TOM and Tailpiece and the uncovered Pickups.
Agreed.  This would be the best of both worlds.
 
		 
		 
				
			 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by aen  Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:54 pm 
			
			
			
			
			dots wrote: why the haet, aen?  those USA toronados are fucking amazing.  really miss mine, actually.
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